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Didja notice . . . . 'Serenity' *SPOILER*

POSTED BY: Ursula
UPDATED: Sunday, January 8, 2006 06:43
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Saturday, January 7, 2006 1:45 AM

Didja notice in the BDM when our gang is on Miranda and River goes into her psychic/Reaver/"Oh, God, make me a stone!" fit with the camera spinning around her, then onto and past Jayne who says, "She's right, everything here is dead for no reason," (Or something close to that) that when the camera stops, Wash is perfectly framed all alone in the street? (Sorta like he's gonna be going off on a long journey over the horizon all by his lonesome.)

What a wonderfully subtle and creepy bit of foreshadowing.

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 1:52 AM

I never noticed that, however I did notice how when we first get to the crew, Mal walks through the kitchen to see Kaylee and he throws his jacket onto the table, and when they are in the cargo bay leaving on the Mule, he has it again.

And what's with that needle Simon gave him before the robbery? Was that to point out that Simon was a doctor, or does Mal have a heroin problem and Simon is his dealer? Oh right.

Joss loves his subtle creepiness, like when he had those quick shots of everyone when Mal threw Simon onto the table in the kitchen, how Zoe reached for her gun ready for anything, but Wash sat there only watching.

That Joss sure is a subtly brilliant softy type person.

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 2:27 AM

and what's with that needle Simon gave him before the robbery? Was that to point out that Simon was a doctor, or does Mal have a heroin problem and Simon is his dealer? Oh right.

To reply to that, before that Mal says time to get inocu, meaning inocculation. Or something like that

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 2:32 AM

yeah, i noticed the camera stopping on Wash on my second viewing (since i knew what was going to happen). that part always gets me whenever i watch it now.

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 2:46 AM

After Cappy yells at Kaylee he turns to find Simon standing behind him. He says,"Guess I need to get innocced before we get planet side." I know that it's already been answered, but I like to be thourough.

Wacky fun!

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 4:19 PM

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Originally posted by tmurrie:
Joss loves his subtle creepiness, like when he had those quick shots of everyone when Mal threw Simon onto the table in the kitchen, how Zoe reached for her gun ready for anything, but Wash sat there only watching.

And a startled Kaylee scoots over into the next chair to get out of the way.

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 4:34 PM

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I never noticed that, however I did notice how when we first get to the crew, Mal walks through the kitchen to see Kaylee and he throws his jacket onto the table, and when they are in the cargo bay leaving on the Mule, he has it again.


It was quietly rumored, but not officially admitted to, until Joss fessed up on the commentary. The long sequence of Mal starting on the Bridge, talking to Jayne and Zoe, moving through the kitchen, to the engine room and Kaylee, talking to Simon as both go from upper level down the stairs to the lower level... all the way to the cargo bay is NOT a single shot. There is a break in that shot, cleverly disquised. Can you find it ? It would explain the jacket issue of Mal.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 6:57 PM

Yeh I guess the needle injection was an innoculation. Just like you would get if you went to a country like Australia. It's a new planet they are visiting so their immune system is not ready for that environment. They also could be bit by insects, an animal or even a human in a brawl.

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 7:05 PM

Also, right after the "Barn Swallow", wash says over the intercom, "We all here? What's going on?" Then it cuts to Wash all alone on the bridge saying, "Hello?" It always gets a laugh, of course, but every time I see it, it disturbs me. Wash is all alone in a very big bridge, framed to the left, not in the center or on the right, and even facing out of frame. It's actually a very poorly framed shot: wrong side of frame for the direction he's facing, lens to make the bridge look really deep, and then him really small in there. Interestingly, the framing of the "Let's get to the beacon shot" is badly framed, too: Wash all alone in a very large frame, and Jayne's arm still in the left half of the frame. Both frames just feel wrong. I think it was some very subtle foreshadowing on Joss' part.

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 7:12 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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I never noticed that, however I did notice how when we first get to the crew, Mal walks through the kitchen to see Kaylee and he throws his jacket onto the table, and when they are in the cargo bay leaving on the Mule, he has it again.


It was quietly rumored, but not officially admitted to, until Joss fessed up on the commentary. The long sequence of Mal starting on the Bridge, talking to Jayne and Zoe, moving through the kitchen, to the engine room and Kaylee, talking to Simon as both go from upper level down the stairs to the lower level... all the way to the cargo bay is NOT a single shot. There is a break in that shot, cleverly disquised. Can you find it ? It would explain the jacket issue of Mal.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "



Yeah, the transition from one take to the other was done with a digital wipe (I think that's what it's called - feel free to correct me, students of film!), where the camera 'passes' quickly across an obstruction (in this case, an adjoining wall) to meet up with the action again. If it's planned and executed well, as in this scene, it appears as a seamless camera move.

A lot of reviewers made mention of the "cool one-take tracking shot at the beginning of the movie."

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