Sequel Plot? ( Mild Serenity spoiler)

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UPDATED: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 17:11
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HUMBUG

Wednesday, January 4, 2006 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by summerwind:
1. What is River like now?
2. How does Zoe deal with Washes death?
3. What does Inara want to do
4. How does Kaylee and Simons relationship affect the dynamics of the ship.
5. How has Mal changed?
In addition we need some new characters to balance the deaths. -Summerwind

BDS = Big Damn Sequel!!!! Ya Dummy!!

Lovin' all the ideas swimmin' around!! Especially yours, Summerwind, that I've quoted above.

I'd love to see River calm down a little after the burden of the Miranda secret has been lifted. And the idea of alove interest for her - yum!! I wonder who? A current character (Jayne/Mal) or a new one??!!

Mal with a little restored faith....... Mal & Inara taking things further....

Simon & Kaylee...... will that work out? How will that change ship dynamics? And how will Jayne react?.....

And Zoe.... pregnant?...... grieving Wash?.... coping / not coping?...... who will support her? Poss. Mal & Zoe pairing?......

So many ideas & questions, so little time.......

I wonder if Joss is getting any ideas from the fan forums??!!! What a lovely idea!!!!!

Humbug

"Yon know what the first rule of flying is?... Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take a boat in the air and you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of worlds. Love keeps her in the air when she oughta fall down, tells tou she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home." Mal, BDM

FRANKIE

Wednesday, January 4, 2006 11:02 PM

yeah... i kind of figured that out after posting. "big damn sequel" i mean.

but why make one psychic super-weapon when you can get many for the same price. they already had the facilities and programs set up. why not use them on multiple people? more than one was bound to survive.

CHIPMUNK

Thursday, January 5, 2006 1:16 AM

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Originally posted by UnregisteredCompanion:
• Most importantly.....do we get to see Nathan's naked ass again? He is one fine hunk-o-man!

In his DVD commentary, Joss sincerely apologized for only once showing Mal scantily clad.

CHRISPV

Thursday, January 5, 2006 1:48 AM

If there's one thing I've come to expect from Joss, it's the unexpected. I really don't know what the BDS might have in it. The only thing I feel fairly certain won't happen is another big civil war in the 'verse, at least not yet. That would fundamentally alter the dynamic of the narrative. Instead of a bunch of misfits scraping by, it becomes a war story. And in order to tell it properly, we need at least some context for the overall war. Wars need to be epic in scope to work correctly, IMO. Think about the Star Wars prequels, where the Clone Wars were barely mentioned but everyone went on and on about their significance. It rang overwhelming false. If Joss decides to start a war, I can only picture it as the finale of the story, and either the time when Mal dies heroically or gets to ride off into the sunset with his gal. (I'm hoping for option 2, but then again I'm a hopeless romantic.)

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal, Fox!

CHRISTHECYNIC

Thursday, January 5, 2006 2:48 AM

I don't like the idea of ghosts and I certainly don’t like resurrection (in Firefly I mean), but River is another story. She was in their heads, I see no reason why she couldn’t have created some form of a copy of their personalities in her head by accident, and she’s got more than enough space in there. Them being killed could have made those copies come to life. (Wouldn't be exactly the same of course.)

I don’t mean her ending up with multiple personalities in the strictest sense, but instead being able to see and interact with them in an, "I see dead people," fashion without actual ghosts involved.

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As for the plot, there are so many ways to go, but I think tying up of loose ends might be in order. Book had secrets, which means he probably had unfinished business, which could open up huge unexplored lands of plot threads all waiting to be explored.

Then there is the fact that River is still the alliance’s biggest success in the project she was in, and now that she's lucid (though I'm not remotely convinced she's sane in the normal sense of the word) she’d be even more valuable.

Mr. Universe could also have things life undone that should be done, and as for Wash, I don't know, I can't think of anything his death could create, but I do wonder if Zoe will have his child, I bet they have a way she could.

There are of course other areas, blue sun, the people who helped break River out, Niska, and even things we have seen nothing of before.

CORNCOBROB

Thursday, January 5, 2006 3:22 AM

ok i just rewatched the part of the R. Tam Sessions where she talks about loosing the first one. its Session 22 Excerpt. and upon further review there is no evidence whatsoever to imply that River was subject number two. i have no clue why that idea came to me, but it did.

The best-laid plans of mice and men often go awry

NCBROWNCOAT

Thursday, January 5, 2006 4:23 AM

Besides those complications there are just two words, Niska and YoSafBridge. Add those two to the mix and you'd have a good BDS and not get into complications about the Alliance (could be a subplot though).

FREERADICAL42

Thursday, January 5, 2006 4:35 AM

Yeah, I agree with that last one.

Fact is, I think that the second movie is going to stay away from the Alliance. Mal won't want to make too much noise and the Alliance will have problems enough in the core and on the Border planets to waste time hunting him down.

I think that more likely, we'll see other characters like Niska (never really killed that plotline since he got away).

Zoe being pregnant sounds possible, but a miscarriage would be likely in her line of work so I'd be surprised if she was.

I think Book's past *should* be alluded to, but a full explanation saved for an even later movie. The BDS should be a "back to basics" movie once Serenity has established hold; it should show more of what Firefly was like by focusing on minor stories; not the big, galaxy-smashing stuff that Big Heroes do. The little, whorehouse-saving stuff that Big DAMN Heroes do.

It would definitely be nice to see Badger again, also. We miss you and your character, Mark. ;)

I'd also like to- maybe- meet Jayne's mother. I think that that would be a great scene.

"See, morbid and creepifying, I got no problem with, long as she does it quiet-like."

NCBROWNCOAT

Thursday, January 5, 2006 4:42 AM

How about Kaylee's parents or more of Simon's parents. Could you imagine them meeting each other? or Kaylee meeting Simon's parents, unlikely but sure to be fun. OWWW!

MISSMADRASSA

Thursday, January 5, 2006 5:35 AM

Hi guys- I don't often post but this particular topic tickles me some..

The BDM ended with such optimism for the future. Yeah, it will be harder for them to find jobs now that they are all fugitives in some sense, but the upside is that they are also a stronger unit. Despite the loss of Wash, they are resolved to work together. They've passed through the storm etc.etc.

Therefore, what the sequel needs to do is obliterate all that hope and take the story into a more epic-arena. (Plus, having a major downer sequel sets up the redemptive third parter...)

Here is what I propose:

1. Set it around five years later. This way you see that the BDHs have had their sort period of pure escapist happiness. Zoe and Wash's kid is playing with Mal and Inara's kid in some rim-moon
oasis. Haven? Maybe they've taken over the mining business or they have their own township that 's utopian and self sufficient. Inara is all homely and in love but not completely fulfilled. Simon is taking the shuttle around caring for the sick poor. Kaylees got her own mechanic shop- whatever. Mal/River /Jayne (hitched?) /Zoe- toning down on the heroics. Small jobs here and there cause theyre happy you know.

2. Political rumblings- looks like parliament are getting all kinds of Third Reich. The companion guild is in trouble. They find out that Book has known about these shenanigans for awhile- the key is in Haven. Mining? Platinum? Oil (sorry)? New Alliance V. Independants- Huge stakes, their children are now at risk. Mal and Co. Volunteers. Inara on the other hand thinks that she can help defeat the Alliance by returning to the Guild. Priestess? whatever. Makes sacrifice- Mal not happy, volunteers again, Mal not happy for some time. War ensues. Lots of wicked battles, Book returns in another more sinister form...

I want the sequel to be totally dark. Imagine Zoe as the protective mother- having already lost Wash. Or River wanting to be mad again because sanity ain't all its cracked up to be.
Jayne finds his soul in doing the right and smart thing for a change. And Kaylee/Simon. Their beautiful 'clash of worlds' relationship is a foil to the painful conclusion of Mal and Inara's relationship. Inara must be the main casualty here- I want to see Mal real pissed again...

#special requests: 1. Laurence Fishburne in the film. Helps Zoe get over Wash? (I'm a sap, I love this kind of real-life-meets-art thang).
2.Inara the villain. Or in Mals eyes anyway. We know she is only doing what she thinks is best but...
3. Book's secret. And he can't just be an operative, He was up there in parliament...
4. Bring back Jubal Early. And Badger (as played by Joss Whedon) as arms dealer.
5. Mal commanding not just the crew, but a whole chunk o' the Browncoats.

Not much to ask is it?

Miss Madrassa

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