Sequel Plot? ( Mild Serenity spoiler)

POSTED BY: jerryt
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 17:11
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JERRYT

Wednesday, January 4, 2006 9:09 PM

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i could see them not getting work, as was stated earlier, most of their contacts are now dead. but i dont think people would see them as heroes. it was not made known, as far as we know, at the end of Serenity that anyone else in the 'verse, aside from the BDH, The Operative, and possibly The 'Puppet Theater', even knows who broadcast the message. since it came from Mr. Universe i would guess most people would credit him for finding and broadcasting the message. i also think it would be intelegent on Mals part to keep that under wraps, as to no bitter alliance brass seeking revenge on him.

The best-laid plans of mice and men often go awry

I guess that could be true. The Alliance wouldn't want to let it out that they were responsible for the deaths, and they did it to force Mal to come in to them. That would raise too many questions as to why they wanted Serenity so badly.

JerryT
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JERRYT

Wednesday, January 4, 2006 9:15 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
No, River wasn't being bred to slaughter Reavers, but something else.

I wonder what.

Maybe they just want to create a super sleeper agent that will fit in anywhere they put them with no knowledge of what they are, and can be triggered when required.

JerryT
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"I'll be in my bunk"

PSOLARIS

Wednesday, January 4, 2006 9:18 PM

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Originally posted by UnregisteredCompanion:
• Most importantly.....do we get to see Nathan's naked ass again? He is one fine hunk-o-man!

Ohhh, yes please!!

Psolaris

"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'"

CORNCOBROB

Wednesday, January 4, 2006 9:36 PM

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No, River wasn't being bred to slaughter Reavers, but something else.

I wonder what.

Joss is going to tie in the Weyland Corp.

The best-laid plans of mice and men often go awry

DANIELFYRE

Wednesday, January 4, 2006 9:45 PM

I honestly think that River and the rest of them were created to destroy reavers, and other random acts that operatives were not too proficient in. By creating a bunch of killing machines they could forever cover up the miranda incident and deny the existance of reavers as they had been trying to do all along. If they let out a team of River-like individuals on the Reavers they would be all taken care of for good. Then the new River-like soldiers would replace operatives...makes sense to me.

-Dan

Ain't that just shiny?

PAYNE

Wednesday, January 4, 2006 10:00 PM

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Possibly some other enemy that the Alliance fears, in which we find was the real reason River was created. The alliance has no trust or love for the Browncoats, but sees them as beaten and defeated. Except for the likes of Mal. They always exaggerate Mal's intent in regards to his former status in the war vs what his current plans are today.

This is very interesting to me, the way all (or most) of the Alliance muckety mucks we meet onscreen are sure Mal is still "fighting the same war," and won't let Mal convince them otherwise. Powerful governments think there are plots against them all the time, and with good reason, because when they govern so many people, there usually are. It's so easy to overreach, treat people who really just want to go their own way like conspirators, and make even more enemies.

That said, I'm leaning towards believing that River was created without any specific target in mind, and that the Parliament simply wanted weapons it could use against potential threats, including those Browncoats they believe will never stop fighting them. They considered it pragmatic at the time, but now River's fallen into the Browncoat fold, in a way. Dramatic irony and all that.

MEGARUIN

Wednesday, January 4, 2006 10:35 PM

maybe mal uses miranda as a base of operations alliance dont like to get out that far ,or maybe they actively seek to destroy the reavers where they find them

browncoat forever

SUMMERWIND

Wednesday, January 4, 2006 10:37 PM

I see several areas that need attention for the story to be consistant.

1. What is River like now?
She's "all right" but her brain is damaged, she's gone through years of trauma and just to top things off she's a genius and a psychic. I think some big part of the next installment should explain who the "new" River is. Maybe include....dare I say it...... a crush/love interest for her.

2. How does Zoe deal with Washes death?
How does she deal with her grief? Does she think about suicide? Does she bang every sod in sight? How does Mal deal with it.

3. What does Inara want to do
It's been made clear that she doesn't want complications, but she feels deeply for Mal. The tension between her and Mal forms the backbone of the drama in the show. This is an issue which needs time and more excellent writting to resolve but it needs to be addressed.

4. How does Kaylee and Simons relationship affect the dynamics of the ship.
It must be hell on Zoe to see these two shiny new lovers exploring eachother (litterally and emotionall). I'm sure Jayne isn't happy either, he never liked Simon but he seemed to like Kaylee in some ways.

5. How has Mal changed?
We've seen that Mal's faith shattered when the war was lost but he's regained some belief in the movie. Does he decide to go rebal and start fighting the Allience for real? Does he start to take more "legit" jobs? Does Inara respect him more?

Those are the biggies that have to be addressed for the show to continue post-Serenity. In addition we need some new characters to balance the deaths. We, as an audience, don't need them to appear immediatly but the lack of Book and Wash will be felt and our emotions need to be changed/directed somewhere to make up for that (although we will never forget them).

-Summerwind

FRANKIE

Wednesday, January 4, 2006 10:43 PM

Firstly... I'm going to sound stupid but what does "BDS" stand for?

I don't think they'll make an "Inara" movie. She'll probably always remain a subplot unless Joss comes up with something totally spontaneously brilliant (which... knowing him, seems kind of likely, especially considering the fact that her character hasn't really done anything supremely interesting yet, but nevermind). As we can't know what's going on in Whedon's head, and as we've been given no real set up except for the constant contradiction between her constant insistance that being a Companion is totally okay and comfortable and wonderful, and the ocassional situations she ends up in that are very obviously not okay. The "prostitute falling in love" is compelling enough to make a feature film about it (in fact, it's been done multiple many times). BUT, although at it's heart Firefly is a character study and a drama, it will always have its roots in the sci-fi/action world, and unless they can weave in something more compelling, just telling the story of Mal and Inara falling in love will not be enough to keep fans and non-browncoat audiences interested. Goodness knows the show's already been killed by being something other than what people thought it was. Lets not suddenly turn it into something completely different, just when it's starting to pick up speed.

On a different note, but still relating to the whole Inara thing, I think it likely that she'll be the next to die. She obviously has a strong connection to Mal, but I really just don't believe that Joss'll let Malcom have a happy ending. They'll probably have a "torrid love afair," as they're already rumored to have had, and then she'll be killed, just to amp up the emotions. It's probably just me, but I don't see Mal's character arch ending with him as totally... okay. I see him as having a dark life... a tragic hero.

As to the River seeing dead people... it seems kind of likely that something like this'll happen, though I'm not sure of the context, or how the other characters will react to it.

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• What is the involvement with Blue Sun and the Alliance? Are they adding stuff to the food like they added Pax to Miranda's air supply?
• What is that little wand the blue gloved guys have...how does it work? Is it reacting to the something in the Blue Sun brand items?

I like this bit. Bravo, unregisteredcompanion.

I also, really like the idea of Zoe being pregnant. I don't know why... it just really tickles me.

I think a probable plot line will include more about River's background. I think it's likely the alliance had no real reason for the "academy" just premptive measures. What interests me about it is that we know there are more people like River. Obviously, River was the star pupil, so the others probably won't be as good as her, but we have no idea how many of them there are... which is kind of horrifying, if you think about it. I seriously doubt that the parliment would just let the Tams go, and since they have an unspecified number of River-like fighters, it's very probably that they'll be coming after her. One on one she would beat them, but again, who knows how many of them there are.

Yeah... So, I talked a lot, and for a minute I'm done... until I think of more nonesense to spew.

CORNCOBROB

Wednesday, January 4, 2006 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by frankie:
Firstly... I'm going to sound stupid but what does "BDS" stand for?

I think a probable plot line will include more about River's background. I think it's likely the alliance had no real reason for the "academy" just premptive measures. What interests me about it is that we know there are more people like River. Obviously, River was the star pupil, so the others probably won't be as good as her, but we have no idea how many of them there are... which is kind of horrifying, if you think about it. I seriously doubt that the parliment would just let the Tams go, and since they have an unspecified number of River-like fighters, it's very probably that they'll be coming after her. One on one she would beat them, but again, who knows how many of them there are.

Yeah... So, I talked a lot, and for a minute I'm done... until I think of more nonesense to spew.

BDS is Big Damn Sequel

and i never gave that much thought, i knew there had to be more 'rivers' but i never actualy thought about what happend to those people. after watching the R. Tam Sessions i belive a vast majority of them were killed in testing, and that rivers ability to withstand all the tourture and experiments are what made her the greatest 'student' they had to offer. i also dont think there are too many other 'students' because river seemed to be one of the first students... in the R. Tam Sessions she was talking about THE first student who was killed because the doc. cut too deep. i dont know why it gave me the impression she was number two, but it did. when i get home ill watch it again and update on this idea.

The best-laid plans of mice and men often go awry

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