Sequel Plot? ( Mild Serenity spoiler)

POSTED BY: jerryt
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 17:11
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JERRYT

Wednesday, January 4, 2006 3:05 PM

Hi All;

Just curious what everyone thinks about what may be the plot for the BDS "When" it gets here.

We all know that the Alliance now knows for sure exactly where River is and what ship she is on. The Operative said he told them that River is no longer a threat, but she is still a real weapon to contend with.

We don't know how much the rank and file Alliance knows about her though, since River was a black project, and someone sure wants to keep that under wraps.

Mal humped them good with his broadcast and I don't see them forgiving him easily for that. .

Also they may have an even harder time picking up work now since the Alliance killed so many people that they worked with, and I'm sure word of that got around to the type of people that they get jobs from.

What do ya' think will happen?

JerryT
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UNREGISTEREDCOMPANION

Wednesday, January 4, 2006 3:30 PM

Very good questions.

I think it would start out with them finding it almost impossible to get work, but then they would find that people looked at them as heros. Kind of like what happened to Jayne with the Mudders. He did not PLAN to be their hero...well...you know the rest. But then again, not much money in being a hero. Maybe Mal even considers going legit because the legit people now respect him...but then he finds out they are worse than the crooks he used to work with because they are pretending to NOT be crooks, but rip off everyone just as bad. It makes Mal appreciate Badger, Niska and Patience that much more.

To add to your questions....
• Do we find out some more about Book's past (I think he is a retired operative)
• Why did Inara leave the companion house where she was about to be made the high priestess? (I speculate that with the job came something she was unprepared for...like reporting to the Alliance about clients...or even being made to do assassin work for the Alliance.)
• Is Zoe pregnant?
• What is the involvement with Blue Sun and the Alliance? Are they adding stuff to the food like they added Pax to Miranda's air supply?
• What is that little wand the blue gloved guys have...how does it work? Is it reacting to the something in the Blue Sun brand items?
• Most importantly.....do we get to see Nathan's naked ass again? He is one fine hunk-o-man!

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DONCOAT

Wednesday, January 4, 2006 3:54 PM

And still more...

• Is River the new pilot of Serenity? If not, will there be a new crewman?

• Will Zoe go through the stages of grieving for Wash? Will she ever be able to break down and cry?

• Will we see Wash and/or Book again? If so, how -- flashbacks, or some kind of resurrection?

• How many parts can fall off a Firefly and still have it fly true?

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ANDRE83

Wednesday, January 4, 2006 4:27 PM

Well, questions in my head:

*In the end of Serenity the Operative seems to respect Mal - and even understand *why* he did it. Come one, he even cried. Would he even go so far as to help him if the alliance came after Mal?

*Does Jubal Early live? And does the bounty on her came from someone else then the alliance? Many could have use for a psycic - not just a totallitarian government.

*Will we see Jayne walking around with the bible? :D

*Can we finally have a cook on board? As mentioned in the episode "out of gas". ("get ourself a cook, a pilot")

Jayne: All those years of preacher training, getting knocked out by one bounty hunter
Book: Oh, dont get me wrong. I gave him a hell of a fight
Jayne: Epic i'm guessing

BROWNCOAT1

Wednesday, January 4, 2006 4:28 PM

Here's my take on things.

River & Mal were the focus of Serenity because that is the way that Joss originally intended the series to go. Had the show continued on tv than Joss would have revealed the secrets behind what was done to River & why leading up to the events we saw in the movie.

I think that the sequel will focus on another crew member. My guess is that Mal will still get a lot of camera time but I am thinking that Inara will be the character we focus on the most. I think we will find out why she left the temple in the first place & what had her sign on w/ Serenity to begin with. This will also allow Joss to delve into the Mal/Inara relationship.

As far as Mal having difficulty finding work, you are most likely right, but not necessarily for the reasons most people might think.

I have no doubt that the power vacuum left by the murders of all the associates/contacts of the crew of Serenity we saw in the movie will be quickly filled by second stringers & opportunists in the criminal world that did not have the power or resources to unseat those above them before. The Operative killing all of the people that might shelter Mal & the crew has opened up all kinds of opportunities for those that would not have had a shot otherwise.

I do think though that word will get out that the deceased's association w/ Mal is what led to their demise so many may be very hesitant to work w/ Mal in the near future. This could mean some pretty lean times for the crew & more plot avenues for Joss to explore. No doubt once things settle down Mal will find work again, but it will take some time to undo the stigma that will be attached to Serenity & her captain.

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VALLONTHEREAVER

Wednesday, January 4, 2006 4:34 PM

An Inara based movie would be kinda dull don't you think?

Jayne is the man

CORNCOBROB

Wednesday, January 4, 2006 4:53 PM

what i think is gonna happen are many people are going to see the Pax message, and turn on the alliance, and in an effort to keep favor on their side, the alliance is going to tell everyone that the message is a hoax created by the browncoats, for whom the war will never be over, and that the woman in the message was forced to repeat those lines, then the browncoats set captured reavers on her. thinking about it, i dont know if that is exactly how it CAN happen, because from what i remember, the alliance denies the existance of reavers, and to say the browncoats captured some, would tell the people they were being lied to. but what i think is going to happen is there will be a real civil war this time, instead of a unification war, and i cant decide if Mal is going to fight in it, or if he is going to take the standard run and hide senario.

i dont belive River is going to be tourmented by her memories of miranda anymore, but she is most definitly going to still be crazy, what with that doohickey in her head being missing...

and in responce to how i think Joss is bringing the others back:

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Originally posted by DonCoat:
• Will we see Wash and/or Book again? If so, how -- flashbacks, or some kind of resurrection?

i think we are going to be seeing flashbacks, but mostly of Wash. while on Miranda, River could still 'hear' every single person in the city, even though they were saying nothing. is it possible, because River is what she is, Book and Wash may still be able to communicate with River? thats just wishful thinking on my part though.

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DANIELFYRE

Wednesday, January 4, 2006 5:38 PM

I had not considered the whole River "seeing dead people" scenario to bring back Wash and Book. Although I admit given the present state of the story that, along with flashbacks, would be the most credible way to bring them back. As for the BDS I think it would focus on book's past as opposed to Inara. I think the Inara-Mal Relationship would get brought up along with Zoe's greif over Wash. This greif could introduce the River seeing dead people and Zoe not knowing how to react to all this. As far as finding work I think that was and will continue to be a problem for the crew. I think whatever job they take for the BDS will tie into Book's past and all the links will be connected. Oh and I think there will be more of River kicking some major tail too. Or maybe I just hope so...

-Dan

Ain't that just shiny?

CORNCOBROB

Wednesday, January 4, 2006 6:00 PM

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Originally posted by UnregisteredCompanion:
I think it would start out with them finding it almost impossible to get work, but then they would find that people looked at them as heros.

i could see them not getting work, as was stated earlier, most of their contacts are now dead. but i dont think people would see them as heroes. it was not made known, as far as we know, at the end of Serenity that anyone else in the 'verse, aside from the BDH, The Operative, and possibly The 'Puppet Theater', even knows who broadcast the message. since it came from Mr. Universe i would guess most people would credit him for finding and broadcasting the message. i also think it would be intelegent on Mals part to keep that under wraps, as to no bitter alliance brass seeking revenge on him.

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AURAPTOR

Wednesday, January 4, 2006 6:20 PM

Possibly some other enemy that the Alliance fears, in which we find was the real reason River was created. The alliance has no trust or love for the Browncoats, but sees them as beaten and defeated. Except for the likes of Mal. They always exaggerate Mal's intent in regards to his former status in the war vs what his current plans are today. Reavers? I highly doubt that River could infiltrate them too well. I highly suspect that the Alliance greatly underestimated their number and strength, until the big battle. They now may consider the issue basically over.

So, who else out there in the 'verse could the Alliance fear ? Maybe some underground Trade Federation? (sorry, sounds too familiar to that OTHER movie...). But think about it... River and the other kids were being bred for some sort of covert action. They had to be unuusally bright, well educated and likely from the more upper class levels of society. And they could also kill a mess of trained soldiers and lay waste to pretty much anything before getting themselves killed.

No, River wasn't being bred to slaughter Reavers, but something else.

I wonder what.

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