Wash or Book?

POSTED BY: Amphipolis
UPDATED: Thursday, January 5, 2006 03:01
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AMPHIPOLIS

Monday, January 2, 2006 8:07 PM

I think that we all realize that neither one of them are coming back. The question is hypothetical. What if...ya know?

BOUNDBYLAW

Monday, January 2, 2006 8:30 PM

As much as it pains me to say it.....neither. Believe me I was very upset when wash died inparticuler. I even added cursin and the hurling about of things to my repetoire. However both deaths bring about needed changes. Mal begins to believe again and becomes more like himself. (he was getting very angry). Zoe said herself she would fly true at the end of the movie but she will take over the brooding that was reserved for Mal. As far as Book's past, thats easy. Members of the Abby could shed some light or any number of previously unmention ex-cohorts of his can reveal themselves. Kaylee and Simon will replace the marriage (him being so proper and all and Kaylee being...well.... not) and should be fun. Mal and Inara may get together but it is doomed before it starts, what with Mal keeping her of the job and all..lol....

THESENTINEL

Tuesday, January 3, 2006 5:09 AM

Depending on who Book is and how important he is there are probably folks out there who would like to see him alive again...and he WAS buried with Mr. Universe and Wash (not left and presumed dead). Would make an interesting backstory if certain of Book's associates came a calling.

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CHRISPV

Tuesday, January 3, 2006 5:16 AM

Wash. He just seemed to have more spark to me, not sure why. That and, honestly, Ron Glass can keep coming back though all manner of holorecordings, messages, etc. for the crew. Tell me you can't picture him leaving an "In case I die" recording for Mal. Wash simply wasn't leading an exciting life before he signed up to fly Serenity, and his past isn't as ripe. Bottom line, if Wash were to return, we could get Alan and Ron back for a Big Damn Sequel.

That said, I both hope and doubt they will ever be back. Joss generally doesn't work like that, thankfully. Wouldn't it just bite to have the 'verse turn into Marvel Comics, with a revolving door on the afterlife? I prefer deaths having a real emotional impact, not just signallling an annoying time where we don't have a particular character and have to impatiently wait for his/her return.

(I'm looking at YOU, Jean Grey.)

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal, Fox!

DEMENTEDYAM

Tuesday, January 3, 2006 5:25 AM

I spoke with my freinds about this after we saw the movie (we went to the midnight opening ) and we decided that the deaths of wash and book were the strongest bits of evidence for another series.

while it has been pretty well established that there isn't another series in the works, the evidence still remains:

what if, hypothetically speaking, the characters (THOSE characters) were killed because those actors would be unable to return for another season?

joss wanted to raise the stakes by killing a character, which he could have easily done to any other character, even in that very scene. (ie: kaylee in the engine room trying to power up during the freefall gets blown to peices in the crash, any of them getting hit by shrapnel or anything, much less random than the reaver spike)

so why did he choose wash? alan not being able to return is the safest bet.

book's death (or write-off) also supports this: book, as a character, was hardly in the movie at all. that supports the evidence that they were otherwise occupied, and could not return for another series.

but alas, our conjecture proved false: there is no word of another series (which there would have been by now), and the argument I presented olny works if that had been known when the script was in production.

AAHHAAA

Tuesday, January 3, 2006 5:51 AM

If you guys have listened to the commentary track (apparently not all have) Joss explains he had to kill off somebody to make the threat real.
Posted elsewhere, I've seen that Ron was very upset about being killed off too.
I had a feeling that an inter-racial marriage wasn't playing well with Last Century Fox's cracker core. (You guys may be too young to remember that someone like Uhuru was still controversial in 1970.)
And then Book, a Shepherd hanging with 'immoral wimmen'; what would Mel Gibsonites think?

Considering all that, tho, I still think Joss killed them off for one dramatically sound reason: people you care about actually die in wars.

VIOLETRIX

Tuesday, January 3, 2006 6:34 AM

wash. zoe's reaction when he died made me cry -- and that was before i had watched any firefly.
i love book, but zoe and wash... it just seems wrong.

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LIMINALOSITY

Tuesday, January 3, 2006 6:39 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by TheSentinel:
BELIEVE ME...Joss could figure out how to bring them back.

It's HIS story that we loved and we need to just stay along for the ride wherever it leads...unless he gets old and crusty like Lucas and incapable of telling a decent story anymore...then

...then South Park would do a parody of Joss, instead of the parody of all of us lunatics, which they're probably already writing.
I call Kenny!

Anybody who doesn't think Joss could bring back Wash...well, come on, it's Joss

Shiny Trees! Yavanna made Shiny Trees!

CHRISPV

Thursday, January 5, 2006 1:24 AM

Not so much that I doubt Joss could bring him back, just that he wouldn't. I don't think Joss would want to undo something like that, if for no other reason than just because it's kind of cheap to kill a character for a shock and then bring him back the next film/episode/etc.

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal, Fox!

HANDSOFBLUE262

Thursday, January 5, 2006 1:37 AM

wash. No matter how much i love Joss (which is a lot, of course) i will ALWAYS be mad at a him for killing off wash...he could quite possibly be my favorite character, i LOVE him...he brings more life to the ship and more importantly brings life to zoe.....i cried my eyes out when he died..i think i almost fainted it was so sudden and zoe's reaction was just.. <--that was me.i cannot bear to see her without him, and he's the best damn pilot there is, i dont care how good river is..he's the leaf on the wind. watch how he soars.

Zoe: The trick is....not to let them know where you are--
Mal: HERE I AM *shooting wildly* HERE I AM!!!

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