*SPOILER* DO NOT READ UNTIL YOU'VE SEEN THE MOVIE AND ENTIRE SERIES
POSTED BY: WantSeasonTwo
UPDATED: Wednesday, January 4, 2006 20:46
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You seem to be assuming they wouldn't of died if there had been a Season 2 instead of the Film.
Joss kills his characters sometimes. Also I think it would totally ruin Firefly to write Wash and Book back in. Firefly isn't Star Trek.
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Originally posted by MohrStoutbeard:
I don't really think there is, or should be, a time when "spoilers" should be discussed freely.
I've gotta say that I disagree with that. I think that once something has been made accesible everywhere in the world (or every reasonable place in the world) it's fair game. Having to put spoiler warnings get really annoying after a while. With Buffy and Angel, for instance, unless someone outright says they haven't seen them all I'm not gonna censor anything I say. To me its silly and bothersome.
Now, before you say I'm being insensitive to others, let me say that I have been spoiled for many things (some in Buffy, for example) that I really wish I could have avoided. That's not anyone else's problem, but mine though. I hadn't seen some stuff and I was hanging around on the internet long after this stuff was firmly set in canon. What did I expect to happen?
I'm not going to be putting spoiler warnings on stuff until the end of time. "Welcome Back Kotter" spoilers? Nuh uh.
And I realize this post may sound inflammatory. It's not!
Just putting my opinion out there.
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Well, sometimes being polite isn't always convenient.
This doesn't mean you shouldn't be allowed to discuss "spoilers," just that you give people some kind of warning beforehand. Is it really that difficult to be courteous? You can't expect everyone to have seen and read everything you have.
I mean, I'll avoid specific forums that I know are likely to be filled with spoilers, like the IMDb, or the Buffyverse and Angelus Arcanum boards here on Fireflyfans. But how is someone to know, for example, to expect a major plot point for Buffy the Vampire Slayer to be revealed in an unrelated thread without some kind of warning beforehand?
Yes, plot twists eventually become public knowledge. But should they really? I mean, wouldn't it be nice if you didn't know about the plot points of Planet of the Apes, The Crying Game, Fight Club, The Empire Strikes Back, etc, years before you ever saw them? Don't you think people should get the chance to experience things the way you did? Fresh and new?
Plot twists may not be the most important part of a movie or book or television show, but there's no reason to potentially ruin others' experience just because you're too lazy to type a few extra words for a spoiler warning.
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I agree it is sooo annoying to find out the outcome of films etc, and many a time i have played the "lah lah lah I'm not listening" game with my fingers stuck my fingers in my ears to avoid hearing things from friends, but come on, this is a Firefly discussion page is it not? I am quite new to this and not completely sure of the chat etiquette, but surely its whole existance is to talk about all aspects of the series and the film? how can you do this freely without mentioning plotlines and outcome?
Perhaps a big warning on the front page saying "THIS WEBSITE MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS" which isn't far off "smoking causes cancer" on cigarette packs ..... really? I hadn't even thought of that 
(there isn't a sign for tongue in cheek sarcasm)
Of course it would be fantastic to not know the outcome of every film we see but people have to be realistic .... and also question how they don't know the outcome of Romeo and Juliet before watching Leonardo's effort at Shakespeare.
Out of interest does anyone know of someone that didn't know what happened to the Titantic before they watched the film?
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Originally posted by WantSeasonTwo:
But - I have to ask...... was I the ONLY fan that was extremely ticked that Wash and Shep bite the dust?
Yes.
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That was a shocker but it doesn't necessarily mean that we'll never see them again in the future. Josh will just have to find a way now, right?
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Like all good writers Joss seems to like melodrama... killing off a few of the main cast seems to be part of that.
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I was crushed when I read online that Wash got killed before I saw the movie. But I guess it was my fault for going to Firefly related sites.
I'm hoping for a prequel. I want to know how he hooked up with Zoe.
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In 7 years of being on the net, I have NEVER cared about any show/movie enough to join ANY group just to voice an opinion. I guess that gives credit to Josh's writing..... he moved the reader/watcher. Yeah..... can honestly say I never took into consideration that someone who has not seen the movie may read this thread prior to seeing the movie. If ANY of you knew me, you would know I'm not one to screw up like that.... I am very diplomatic and tight lipped when appropriate. It was late, found the site, was bummed, made the comment.... end of story.
If someone read this thread and the movie was spoiled - I humbly apologize.
With that said.... I am NOT inconsiderate by nature and those implying that I am - you are not nice. Assumers should be shot. My act was not deliberate... your's was.
However, THANK YOU to those who reminded me of the very reason why I Haven't joined groups like this in the past - too many with no social lives who act and talk like they're all that - and then we find out they are a bunch of nobodies with no job, no life, and no ambition - and thats why they sit ALL day on sites such as these, put down other people when they make an "Honest" ooops and then judge you based on it.
Sorry...... don't need the bull.
Perhaps the admin of this site could have a pop-up BEFORE you start a thread requesting a "Spoiler" label AND state.... remember that some who may read this haven't seen it yet. This would help avoid "events" like this in the future.
To those of you that are nice.... have a great life.... to the others.... GET ONE!
I don't need this crap.... outta here.
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I wouldn't take it so personally. People of different minds are just voicing their opinion on spoilers and spoiler warnings, and we're seeing mixed ideas on the subject.
Just because some of us might consider posting blatant spoilers inconsiderate doesn't mean that we are condemning you or personally attacking you. I am sure that most perfectly nice people have done inconsiderate things at time, because everyone makes mistakes. No need to feel persecuted for it. Just say mea culpa and learn from it.
However, if you feel like people are judging you unfairly and assuming things about your personality, it's still probably not wise to turn around and unfairly judge them and assume things about their personality (e.g. "too many with no social lives" and "they are a bunch of nobodies with no job, no life, and no ambition").
Not exactly the highest road you could be taking there, is all I'm saying.
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