Spike movie officially under way
POSTED BY: maugwai
UPDATED: Thursday, February 9, 2006 07:34
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Ahh, ok. I'm not as up on the Buffy 'verse as I am Angel. Now I'm left to speculate as to the origin of this nickname.
ok. Giles is his last name, First name Rupert.
now in his late teens, found out his destiny was to be a watcher, hit his rebelloius streak, hates the world, starts messing with majicks, some of them dark, falls in with a similar crowd, etc. and you know as a young man with a tough image, Ripper is much cooler than Rupert.
(kinda like Arthur Fonzirelli and "The Fonz")and if you don't get THAT reference watch a few re-runs of happy days.
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Nothing like filming a major motion picture to make you feel better about your show being cancelled.
- Nathan Fillion
REDEMPTION!
- Adam Baldwin
Well played Clerks...
- Leonardo Leonardo(Clerks Cartoon)
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I was lucky enough to be at the Edinburgh film festive a few months ago and attended Joss’ discussion evening and the Spike film was, unsurprisingly, brought up in the Q&A session. It would appear that Joss does intend to take this as far as he can, he just won’t say anything definite for now saying, (to paraphrase) the rugs been pulled out from under him one too many times…
My personal feeling on the project, though I know no-one asked for it, is one of slight disappointment. Like all of the fan-base, I long for a return to the Buffyverse – but for me, the heroes of Angel went out in a blaze of glory. Any direct continuation with any of the characters from the alley, I feel, will almost taint that poignant, powerful end. As you might have guessed, I’m on of those all too few fans that adored the finale.
I would prefer to see something involving Connor – a spiritual continuation – or a project focused on Giles, Oz or Xander. Or a new series, featuring all new characters in that universe that Joss created almost 10 years ago.
Having said that, if the Spike flick does get commissioned I will likely check it out. After all, Tim will be at the helm and recent news that the flick may serve as a bridge between Buffy and Fray has sparked my interest.
I seen so much death... I been on fields carpeted with bodies, friends and enemies - i seen men and women blown apart to messes no further from me to you. But every single ones of those people died on their feet. Fighting. Or, hell, running away - doing summat to get through...
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I would prefer to see something involving Connor – a spiritual continuation – or a project focused on Giles, Oz or Xander.
I'm one of those who didn't really look too favorably at the whole Conner, Evil Cordy, unholy union between them thing. Oz's story, on the other hand, seemed to me just begging to be told. Getting Seth to reprise his role as Oz might be too much to ask. I like the idea of Spike coming back, a great deal. I'd like to think they all survived, maybe even Gunn. But for any continuation, I'd be for it.
I don't know if we're spoiled, delusional or what, but Joss does seem to have this knack for bringing things back from the dead, especially for those of us who BELIEVE.
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Well, I think that people judge Connor, as a character, unfairly. Yes, the whole Connor/Cordelia union had a high “eeew” factor; that cannot really be denied. However, I always deeply pitied Connor and found myself feeling for him just as much as I did hate him at times (such was his thankless role as protagonist in latter Season Three and Four).
But I still found him a wonderful character and think very highly of the episodes that focused on him. ‘Inside Out’ is a much too over looked gem – in my opinion. And who didn’t love ‘Home’?!
Having said that, I completely understand why so many people do not like the character (though quite how he is one of the most hated still slightly baffles me). However, I think that a number of these fans were brought back onside with the introduction of the new incarnation of the character in ‘Origin’. In that episode we got to know the Connor that could have been, the one that Holtz denied him to be.
And then we have the joining of the old and the new Connor(s) in the one we see in ‘Not Fade Away’ and that is the Connor that fascinates me. The one that I think deserves to have his story told. With his adjusted upbringing helping the balance the trauma of his pervious life (which I’m sure will seep into his memories more and more as time goes by) – I think that his character showed much promise.
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How would he deal with learning that he assisted in the murder of a poor young, helpless girl (‘Inside Out’), learning that he had a daughter and that the woman that he once loved is dead… So many questions unanswered...
I would see the project as very much a bridge between the styles of ‘Angel’ and ‘Buffy’. A kid trying to balance his ‘normal life’ with his newfound responsibilities… Struggling to fill the shoes of his father, failing far more than he wins… Looking for guidance and support…
As for Oz – I agree that getting Seth to commit to a series would be very, very unlikely (unfortunately)… But perhaps a straight-to-dvd flick, produced in the off-season, would be a much more likely prospect. And I would happily take that. Kinda like the Hulk, but, you know, actually good.
With either of these projects I would happily have one of the ex-Mutant Enemy writers taking the reign, with the nod from Joss. Drew Goddard would be my personal top choice.
I seen so much death... I been on fields carpeted with bodies, friends and enemies - i seen men and women blown apart to messes no further from me to you. But every single ones of those people died on their feet. Fighting. Or, hell, running away - doing summat to get through...
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How would he deal with learning that he assisted in the murder of a poor young, helpless girl (‘Inside Out’), learning that he had a daughter and that the woman that he once loved is dead… So many questions unanswered...
Yeah, on that. I have my own little comment relating to that topic....
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I never bought the notion that Conner could have carried out that murder after that speech by Darla. She was offering him everything he had been denied. Not only the brutal truth of her own existence, but her complete love in the one thing she, his mother, could only love....Conner himself. And he tossed that away. Sure, it's a great moment for drama, but a low point in my love for the show.
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Funnily enough, whilst I desperately wished that Connor would make the right decision (save the girl, take on Cordelia and embrace the love of his mother), I couldn’t help but love that moment and what it represent for him. Here was this young man, so fucked up (excuse my French) due to a truly horrific upbringing that he could not believe that anyone could love him, not even his mother… I thought that spoke volumes about the character and just how tragic he really was…
I’ve always looked on that moment with great affection (as odd as that sounds), it’s another moment with the writing doing what needs to be done, that’s *real* rather than what we want… And who didn’t want Connor to realise he was being manipulated. It just felt right for the character.
Say what you want about evil Cordy (‘cause I’m mainly gonna agree with you) but ‘Inside Out’ was an amazing episode for the young hellspawn.
I seen so much death... I been on fields carpeted with bodies, friends and enemies - i seen men and women blown apart to messes no further from me to you. But every single ones of those people died on their feet. Fighting. Or, hell, running away - doing summat to get through...
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I may be swayed by how magnificant Darla's character was handled. Both in the writing and the acting, I really enjoyed Julie Benz's effort more than any other character, save for James' Spike. f
And I know it's been mentioned before, somewhere, but Julie does the voice for a character in HALO 2.
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That character's name - Miranda.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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hmm, in origin I found myself if not liking then at least not minding conner, but generally I would be happy if I never saw him again... but in the one where he kills the girl (I forget the name) I think it fits that he goes ahead after darla's speechifying. its kind of like how he sees jasmin as she is but still loves her, she was his cordy replacement and he's so desperate for a female influence that I believed he'd ignore his real mother for evil cordy...
on the subject of spin offs, woo, and may I add hoo, I don't know how they'll get spike out of the alley but I'm sure it will be convincing, and can't wait for more spikey goodness.
I'm sure I remember hearing/reading years ago, possibly while buffy was still going that there was to be a series called ripper, set in england and part made by the bbc... obviously nothing happened with that but maybe after the success of the return of dr who, the beeb might be looking for more genre projects and it might be brought up again- that would be cool...
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I just wanna say right now I WAN'T AN OZ MOVIE!!! he was my favorite and I wanna see what he did when he left and after! I want a Spike movie more but I want an Oz one soon after.
It's a real burden being right so often.
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Having said that, if the Spike flick does get commissioned I will likely check it out. After all, Tim will be at the helm and recent news that the flick may serve as a bridge between Buffy and Fray has sparked my interest.
I seen so much death... I been on fields carpeted with bodies, friends and enemies - i seen men and women blown apart to messes no further from me to you. But every single ones of those people died on their feet. Fighting. Or, hell, running away - doing summat to get through...
Out of the loop, what did you mean by it may serve as a bridge between Buffy and Fray.
Is there a new project in the works im not aware of. Fray.
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