My top 78 Sci-fi and fantasy flicks.
POSTED BY: DarthJohn
UPDATED: Wednesday, January 4, 2006 19:20
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Hold the phones! Stop the presses! You don't have Matrix up there!
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There's no show I'd rather see, than the one with Serenity.
You can't take the sky from me...
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I personally found "The Matrix" kind of overrated! i prefer the Lord of the Rings trilogy and the classic Star Wars Trilogy over "Matrix" anytime, hell even Serenity kicks it's a$$
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I agree totally.
Gattica is really good, got it for X-mas (finally!)
But what about Army Of Darkness, dude, it's one of the BEST flicks EVER!!!!!
Don't tell us you've never seen it???
Chrisisall Ash
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Aww I dunno guys. i mean, the sequels were pure crap but The Matrix was a very defining sci-fi movie. But to each his own eh.
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There's no show I'd rather see, than the one with Serenity.
You can't take the sky from me...
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There was always something about The Matrix that bugged me, even when I was watching it once a week after the DVD came out. The sequels were the lynch pin to my appreciating it fully, and they exposed the first movie for the slick mess that it was (this is harsh and evil chrisisall speaking now...). It all almost made sense, but needed more...unfortunatly it got less.
But the fights and music are still cool.
I own it Chrisisall
EDIT to add: don't take me too seriously, I mean, I think 2001 ain't so great for similar reasons (lack of coherent disposition), and who agrees with me on THAT one??
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I'VE NEVER cared for the Matrix, "LOTR" is better and so is "Blade Runner' and "Star Wars A New Hope".
Anyone seen "Rock & Rule" and "The Last Unicorn"?
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Okay Chris but, you can't put the problems of the sequels onto Matrix. You said something bugged you about it to begin with so this isn't really talking directly to you, rather for those who DO try to judge it JUST because of the sequels:
For me anyway, Matrix was original and intriguing. It was a good film as a stand-alone movie, and although some things obviously did not make full sense as you suggest (they just HAD to go back and explain the crap out of it in the sequels, only confusing things further)but that was its charm.
I mean, I don't judge A New Hope or Empire Strikes Back harshly just because Phantom Menace was bad. But I know that's not totally relevant to your argument because when you say that about the Matrix I think you're talking more in terms of the storyline and how, as you said, the sequels turned it into a bit of a mess. That aside to everyone else, I just don't think its fair to judge it solely in reference to Reloaded and Revolutions.
It was good that the original didn't reveal everything. That it was a bit of a mystery and strange fantasy. They shouldn't have added those extra movies, but yeh, for me they don't negate the original's greatness.
Anyway, would love to chat about this further 'cause this is a "shiny" thread, but I'm off to New York for a holiday! Whoo! Hopefully talk to you guys some more when I get back in a week's time!
Happy New Year fellows, Peace!
oh PS, Darth John - its a bit harsh to compare Matrix to LOTR and Star Wars, I mean they're totally different movies! Lol anywayz, like I said great list, talk to yas when I get back! adios
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There's no show I'd rather see, than the one with Serenity.
You can't take the sky from me...
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Do you think it's like the same thing with "First Blood" (you know the original Rambo movie?) when it was a stand alone movie that didn't need sequels? why is Matrix so worshipped? Serenity is way F&^%&% better!
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Hmmm interesting arguments here. Have to agree with everyone about ROTS. Lacked some major emotional and intellectual connections. Was better then the other 2 definitly, but the acting truly was horrendous on a few parts!
Oh and hellooooo BDM!!!! Means Big Damn Movie....SERENITY!!! :)
Also have to agree bout Army of Darkness!! Class film...just hilarious. Makes Brucy boy a hero! lol.
Hmmmm I grew up on Princess Bride so I totally agree with you loving that one!!
Really enjoyed your list. Own most of them so I am in the same mind...but Indiana Jones should really be on the list. You should round it up to a nice 80 or 90! lol.
Love, Ally
'Comfort me with apples for I am sick of love' -Solomon
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Originally posted by Jumpy:
And seriously, when I think of the tacky dialogue that Lucas put into Sith (The mind boggles, I mean: "What have I done?";"I don’t even know you anymore!"; "I loved you like a brother!"; "Nooooooooooo!" - C'mon George dude!!!) I can't help but cringe. These things could have been done and said in a more natural and realistic sense. Revenge of the Sith to me had poor dialogue and acting that left something to be desired.For a movie that wants to use these things to convey emotion and message, it did fail in that respect.
And I quote:
"I should have expected to find you holding Vader's leash. I detected your foul stench when I was brought on board."
Seriously, are you telling me this is better dialogue than the stuff in RotS? And as for bad acting, I refer you to, "You're not my father! That's impossible!!" *shudders*
In point of fact, none of the Star Wars films have overly great dialogue or acting. But god, this is melodrama, it's not supposed to be Oscar-quality stuff!
My personal theory is that because most of us were acquainted with the original trilogy as children, we just accept the cheese in the original unconditionally, but can't do the same as adults.
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I wish I had a magical wish-granting plank.
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