Have you guys seen this?
POSTED BY: gypsylife
UPDATED: Thursday, February 2, 2006 03:57
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Originally posted by XeroGravity:
We're hoping for a sequel. Let's see... how much money past the breakeven point do we have to get to get (deja-vu?) a sequel? How many DVDs have to sell to make that possible? Forget bringing back the show. Let's hope for a movie sequel.
XG
XG, I'm not trolling you here, so don't take this the wrong way...but it did happen for Family Guy. They cancelled a funny show that a lot of people adored because they thought they didn't have a hit. However when the Season 1 DVD sales went through the roof, they re-thought it, and now those of us that LOVE that show get to see more of it.
I would love either a sequel or a new series. And I'm not counting either possibility out until those numbers come in. They didn't do a good job of promoting it, yet it's on the top of the charts on Amazon because people like us are getting out there and pounding the pavement about this show. I don't think it's naive of anyone here to wait and see what's going to happen.
Psolaris
"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'"
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Everyone just relax! 
Joss is all booked up for awhile. We Browncoats have 2 to 3 years to wait minimum before we'll see anything live-action Serenity related. If you're reading interviews with Joss in the hopes that he will say "a Serenity sequel has been greenlit... we begin shooting in Spring" or something like that... you're in for a loooooong wait.
During that time both the Firefly box set and Serenity dvd have to sell like crazy before any forward motion on a future project can happen. Keeping the show in syndication and the film on HBO and On Demand for as long as possible wouldn't hurt either.
We Browncoats are a patient lot. Three years passed between Firefly and Serenity. We're in for another long wait so hunker down, y'all.
Our mission between now and then is to keep doing what we've been doing: Inform new people about the 'Verse. Keep the dvds selling and keep the show/movie on the air.
We've done it before we can do it again!
mattro
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..... despite Universal's best marketing efforts,
*cough* bullshit *ahem* No offense meant, but in no way was that the best effort a movie studio's marketing dept. could have done. The posters came out WAY too late, they targeted the commercials on t.v. (Sci Fi channel ) heavily to a audience which was already aware of and planning to see Serenity. Outside of this fanbase, I had a hard time telling anyone about the movie because they had never heard of a) Firefly or b) Serenity.
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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*Bullshit-cough* Yes I mean to offend! *cough*
Universal marketed the film?
Ahh. Good Job Universal. I have a bridge in NY I'm selling if you true believers got any pocket change to invest.
The "promoters" are tripping all over themselves to chat up a gay cowboy movie as I write this (which is bombing at the box office). But space cowboys with hawt chicks and western-style action? Newp. It's just too "not Star Trek". Most people have no clue there was even a movie made by the name of "Serenity". Good job with the marketing there Oooh-nee-vurzal (your name be praised).
...anyhow... I'm coming out of my "fellow" browncoat-imposed exile in troll hell to post this...
this is a quoted article from the same site that Whedon did this original interview with our beloved Whedonator... it's the review of "Serenity"... brought to you by the "INDUSTRY APPROVED" site that markets the weekly grist we pay 9 dollars a pop to go view... the very same people who did the interview that spawned this thread... oh how they love "Firefly"...
Das Khwotenzie:
but first.. der link-er-schnitzel:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/review/dvd/0,6115,1141292_2_0_,00.html
so you can verify. now back to das khwote...
(I reprint it here in case in der future they delete it)
By Dalton Ross
"I should begin with a disclaimer: I'm not that guy. I'm not that guy who squealed, whined, and wept when Firefly was taken off the air. I was far more furious when other sci-fi entries like Harsh Realm and Farscape were criminally canceled. Still, I did enjoy the show's space-Western premise. The good news is that follow-up film Serenity is as accessible to newbies as it is to hardcore fans. The bad news is that the film's story line — good guys (Nathan Fillion, back as Capt. Malcolm Reynolds; his crew) protect a woman (Summer Glau's ass-kicking psychic River) whom bad guys will do everything in their power to capture lest she reveal a secret diabolical plan that would unmask them as superbad guys — seems taken straight out of a bottom-shelf Schwarzenegger flick (Eraser, for those of you scoring at home). It also doesn't help that most of the film's antagonists amount to little more than souped-up space zombies.
Still, the wild, wide-open universe that Joss Whedon has created is freewheeling enough to keep things interesting. The director mentions in one of three featurettes that a book about the battle of Gettysburg led to his sci-fi Western epiphany, as he would ''become obsessed with the idea of life on the frontier, and that, of course, makes me think of the Millennium Falcon, because most things do.'' The extras make much of Firefly's resurrection onto the big screen, but the most amusing moment occurs during Whedon's introduction for an advance screening of the film, when he credits fans for bringing the show back to life. ''It is, in an unprecedented sense, your movie,'' he says. ''Which means if it sucks, it's your fault. You blew it.'' In that case, we give all of you a B."
So listen up you buncha Skweelerz, whinzers, and weeperz... (gee whiz I love how Mr. Dalton characterizes us... good choice of venues Joss)
I've caught nothing but flak for saying it but I'll say it again. Whedon sold us out. He didn't have his heart in it when it came to bringing back the show. He licked their boots, announced to THEM he wasn't bringing back the show ("THEM" = "the abovementioned" industry sycophants), and left his fanbase clueless. What? We didn't deserve to hear it first?
I've been called a troll for saying it, but now I'm proven right.
"I told you so!" <-- so deserving of BOLDness
Yes. I'm saying I told you so. Cuz I did. And I got chastised for it over and over and over again. I'm such a troll!
The movie was a goodbye letter.
ahh the irony.
XG
No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.
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XG, I'm curious...this article is only one of many that talk about the fate of the show and/or sequel. So why only comment on this one? We've got other threads on those other articles that are more positive about the outcome, why don't you comment on those?
I'll post the articles that we've discussed so that you can read those too.
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout
/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1134946211503&call_pageid=968867495754&col=969483191630
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Insider/?cmsGuid=%7B474C40BF-9ED5-4BED-A17
8-7C34C2A6BB01%7D
Both of these are just as viable a source as EW.com. And both of them reiterate that he still wants to tell the story, that he's not done with the characters nor the 'verse, and that if someone were to come along and ask him to continue, he would. And that all of this depends on DVD sales.
Psolaris
"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'"
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Psolaris I'll respond to this... I've read both articles you posted...
Felt like gay-ass PBS Lipton-shmoozing. Oh you get down with your bad self Lipton.
Here... save yourself...
See how the other side lives. A whole universe of people are disgusted with the monopolistic sludge spewing forth from that foul bodily orifice known as hollywood.
we get our take on things elsewhere (and I warn you, it's vile, it's nasty, a large percentage of it is totally disagreeable). Filthycritic goes beyond the pale and vulgar to a fault. But he's the only voice in an ocean of sell-outs. Gee can I get an interview with this or that star if I only praise your halfass film? Will you market my site by buying up my advertising space?
You'll find answers here...
new master... http://www.bigempire.com
...click your way to the movie reviews section... and be warned. This guy is pure filth. Unadulterated filth. Raw, nastiness. But mostly accurate 90+ percent of the time. When I'm not laughing my ass off, I'm nauseated. Except for the fact that he has a master. Ahh... once upon a time.
..anyone would sell out for the right sum of money. (?)
old hijacked link ~ it'll redirect you but that's part of the magic... the magic of what money can do.
http://filthycritic.com/filthy
read
XG
No such thing as gravity. The "Big Empire" won. Whedon is making movies. It's all happy weightless utopia. float like a leaf on the wind. like a leaf (watch out for harpoons)
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You gave me the respect of reading my articles, so I did the same and read yours too. And I do see what you mean, he does seem quite negative. And believe it or not I do know what goes on behind closed doors when it comes to the entertainment world. No I'm not from the Hollywood world, but I did work in the entertainment industry for a time in my town here and it can be quite cruel, backstabbing, cut throat etc. and yes, it's tiresome to deal with all of that.
I guess I'm more of a positive thinker though. I know that you loved the show just as much as all of us, and that if you had your choice, you'd want it back too. And I do understand that you're not getting your hopes up and that point of view is very realistic thinking to you. However I don't see that hoping for the show to come back is being all that unrealistic. I've mentioned before that I was a huge Family Guy fan. I watched that show every week it was on the first season, and then suddenly Faux pulled it. Boy was I steamed, but there was nothing I could do. So when the DVD's came out of that season, I bought it right up of course. Then something wonderful happened...those sales went through the roof! Faux saw the numbers, re-thought, and now I get to enjoy one of my favorite shows again. Color me surprised when that happened! Do I count on them bringing back the show...no. Would I be happy with another movie if the show does not return...yes. But I'm waiting to see if those numbers keep climbing, and see if we do get what we all hope for.
If I turn out dissappointed if nothing happens...well, then yes, you told me so. But be patient my fellow Browncoat. Hopefully the loud outcry will become so much that someone has to listen. Hopefully someone in their right mind will see the numbers and pay attention. I've watched interviews with Joss and he's said that he'd love to continue the story if someone gave him the chance, and these are ones that aren't necessarily the butt kissing kind of interviews (which, yes you are right, do exist).
I don't think you a troll at all for voicing your opinion (please believe me when I say that). That's what all of us here do is voice opinions. I'm being as open minded about the whole thing as I can be and playing the wait and see game. I guess I'm asking you do to the same. (unless of course you've waited for a long time and you're tired of the wait...I'm still pretty new to the show and the site and don't how long you may have been going through all of this.)
Respectfully,
Psolaris
"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'"
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You haven't read anything on that site. If you had, you'd take an entirely differnt tone of text with me. I urge you, go back to filthycritic.com and dig up his critiques of movies you hate and movies you love. Read the "hate" stuff first, because he's brutal with everything. I frequently find myself at odds with the handful of flicks I love that he shreds.
But then again, he NEVER touches scifi or fantasy, so most of what I love is off limits. For example... he never even reviewed Serenity. I'm glad for it because you have to have watched "Firefly" to truly love it (a point lost on Whedon, sadly).
He's vile. He's nasty. He goes over the top way too much and can be repulsive. BUT, when he gets down to analyzing the film, he's right on the money. It's his great gift, and I'm devoted to him for it. I see that "middle finger" rating on a flick, I have zero doubt I'll come away feeling raped out of 9 dollars if I go to see it.
5 fingers... well, his tastes sometimes stray from mine. I'd give 4 fingers most of the time when he's calling out the super-rare 5, but he's not a scifi nerd, and I am.
But bottom line, he's one of the only cinephiles out there taking the hollywood whores by the throat and saying what he thinks. The freakin guy is honest. Those other sites that suck up to the industry lie out their asses.
They hire industry hacks and send them to well-catered junkets, feed them booze, buy them hookers, and then "quote" them as official critics. The "so-called" independant critics who get a paycheck from newspapers and TV news stations are no better. They give softball critiques of films, and never come straight out and say "This flick sucks snot!". If they dare to say that a suck-ass film sucks, they suddenly lose access to the monopoly-controlled people who let them inside. No more big scoops for you hackneyed sluts. How can you pay your bills if the industry people won't talk to you? You'll surely lose your job cuz u ain't bringin home the juicy bacon. We want, we need, NAY we DEMAND quotes and interviews. Kiss all the ass you have to. Or no paycheck.
Frauds. I would never go see a flick until I check to see what Mr. and Mrs. Filthy have to say about it. Their word is that super-rare commodity, more precious than lustrous gold and sparkling gemstones... an honest opinion. It's just raw, nasty, and rated "X" truth. I'm lovin it!
Can't buy honesty. When you find it, it's always free. That is why it's so insanely rare.
XG
No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.
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Ok, at your urge-ance, I went back and read some more. Believe it or not I agree with quite a few of his reviews on movies. Now granted, there are some I loved that he didn't like so much, but that's just different tastes for different folks. Yes, he's quite vile, and he takes the Hollywood crap out of the picture. I had to chuckle at times at some of his utter honesty about his feelings on some things, whether or not I agreed with his review. And you're right, it is a rare thing indeed to find someone so honest about how they feel. I wasn't, however, repulsed by him. What I read in the article from your post before did seem to have a negative throw to it, which is why I said what I did, but I do understand more now of what you mean. He has no pressure.
Still, I do stand by what I say when it comes to the show and the future of it. Hollywood BS or not, Whedon does want to tell the story, and he has more in his brain that he wants to get out there...I have no doubt about that. So don't count it out too soon.
Out of curiosity though, do you know why he doesn't do much sci-fi or fantasy? In the archives the only ones he touched on were Revenge of the Sith, LOTR, and Narnia. If he says why he stays away from them I'm missing it somewhere. I actually like to see him critique more of that genre.
Psolaris
"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'"
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