My thoughts on Serenity *SPOILER*
POSTED BY: j6ngo1977
UPDATED: Thursday, December 29, 2005 04:26
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Ok I can understand what you are saying about the characters changing. However, as I see it, Joss produced evolved characters for the movie. If Firefly continued, what you witnessed in the movie is what you would have seen in season 2. So to me there was no change in the characters it was just an accelerated evolution.
I don't think Mal was an unlikeable Psychopath. I take you think that because he put a gun on the crew. Mal has always thought he knows best and he cares about his crew. So if it's a toss up between threatening his crew at gunpoint or his crew and himself dieing he will do it. Remember Mal's seal of approval and friendship is by saying 'you are on my crew'. It is important for Mal to have that crew and a crew he can trust. Using a gun is just his way.
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Also the Star Trek comparison is a poor one, I think. Star Trek was canceled in 1969 and did not go directly to a movie. In fact it was 10 years before the movie came out and when it did, the set, the characters and the even story had undergone considerable changes. In effect the 1979 Star Trek movie was a rerendering of the 1960s tv show, much as superman and batman movies. That’s completely different from Firefly being canceled in 2002, and its director/writer continuing straight from the cancelled show to promote and make a movie that released 3 years later and resembles in all but the minutest detail the original show.
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None of which changes the fact that Star Trek did go from cancelled series to movie, a direction refutation of the comment in the audio commentary and other dvd extras that Firefly was the only series to do so. It might be the only series to make the transition so quickly, but that's not the claim that's being made :)
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And don't forget Police Squad!...
It only lasted 6 episodes in 1982, then jumped onto the big screen in 1988 as The Naked Gun.
As far as the deaths of Book and Wash go, I agree with an earlier post. I hope that they do stay dead, despite those two being my favorite character.
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Now the series can skip over the whole 2nd season and get on to fighting the alliance.....
I can live with that :)
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Originally posted by Tholo:
After the River slaughter of the Reavers, how does she open the door???
Hey, River can kill you with her brain. No great stretch to opening doors with her mind.
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Quote:Oh, but she did. I thought I saw this in one of my theatrical viewings, and I wuz right... I confirmed it on the DVD.
Originally posted by SpaceHopper:Quote:
Originally posted by Tholo:
After the River slaughter of the Reavers, how does she open the door???
The only thing I can figure is that she kicks a Reaver head to hit the door button. Why will it still open Kaylee fixed it not to open from the outside. OK River is smarter then Kaylee, but that would have to be pretty quick to stand in front of the door at the end.
Now this does not ruin the movie for me but I am sure none BC's will ask and I need to give a good answer.
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I don't think Kaylee rigged the door in the end, I don't remember seeing her do anything to the door or the button.
Watch the scene where River freaks out: "They're all made up of rage!" and watch carefully as Jayne picks up her gun and heads back to his position. You'll see Kaylee moving away from the door controls with a tool in her hand. She's just finished rigging the doors to latch closed.
I'm of the school that believes the Alliance issued an override.
But here's another question: why did the doors just happen to fail in the not-quite-closed position? I understand it from a storytelling perspective, but what's the technical justification? Did Kaylee screw up her rigging job? Forgiveable, as she was pretty freaked out at the time. Or did they just malfunction in a fortunately unfortunate way?
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Too many words.
Maybe someone already said this, I did not read all of the posts.
I always had the impression that it was a Reaver that opened the door. They are far from idiots, so I figured one overrode the door but River killer him/her/it/other before the door actually started to open. Then she killed any leftovers and was left in the middle of the room.
The idea that the alliance did it by remote would make the timing more sensible though.
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I personally felt Book's death did not serve a purpose. Why go to all the trouble to create a secret, hidden past for a character to just kill him off before it's revealed?
My guess is Ron Glass didn't want to commit to another series, or a long string of films.
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Look, I’m not sexist, but a 90 lb girl cannot put enough force behind a punch to do the kind of damage River was doing. I’m sorry, but as a physicist, I have to call bullshit. It was one thing for Buffy to do it, she was supposed to be some kind of supernatural superheroine, River was not. River was just a girl with, perhaps, some kind of psychic powers derived from surgical manipulation, but making her also magically strong is dumb. There I said it, sue me.
I thought about this, and about the possible stamina she could have. If you could react perfectly to any incoming motion and put as little as 10 pounds of force in the proper spot (eyes, throat, tendons in knees, etc.), you could do major damage with minimum effort....of course this would take near psychic aim. HEY! She IS a psychic!
Plus, she was using really sharp things she got off the Reavers.
Does that help you buy it all a little bit more, Finn?
When the opponent expands, I contract. When he contracts, I expand...Chrisisall
P.S., Buffy wouldn't have been able to beat that many Reavers; she's been known to have a problem with just one normal vamp (see: Fool For Love
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Quote:I can tell you for absolute certain that Ron Glass was *anything* but happy about having his character killed off. Have a look at the reports from the recent Flanvention to see what I mean.
Originally posted by Browncoater:
I personally felt Book's death did not serve a purpose. Why go to all the trouble to create a secret, hidden past for a character to just kill him off before it's revealed?
My guess is Ron Glass didn't want to commit to another series, or a long string of films.
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Ain't about you, Jayne. It's about what they need.
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