Blasphemy? Kaylee Get's On My Nerves!

POSTED BY: HighWiredSith
UPDATED: Thursday, June 8, 2006 22:59
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HIGHWIREDSITH

Friday, December 23, 2005 2:39 PM

Yeah, I know, a beloved character, sweet, innocent, pure...but in how many episodes does Kaylee get her feelings hurt? I mean seriously, you have to walk on eggshells around the girl. Jayne upsets her, Mal upsets her, the women at the part upset her, Simon upsets her and upsets her and upsets her...just about every show features someone hurting sweet little Kaylee's feelings. Maybe she ought to toughen up a little eh?

OK, maybe not. But Jayne's line about Kaylee wishing Simon was a gynocologist was flat out hilarious.

CHANNAIN

Friday, December 23, 2005 2:54 PM

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Originally posted by HighWiredSith:
Yeah, I know, a beloved character, sweet, innocent, pure...but in how many episodes does Kaylee get her feelings hurt? I mean seriously, you have to walk on eggshells around the girl. Jayne upsets her, Mal upsets her, the women at the part upset her, Simon upsets her and upsets her and upsets her...just about every show features someone hurting sweet little Kaylee's feelings. Maybe she ought to toughen up a little eh?

She was the one telling the captain off in OMR, and check out her little rant in the Maidenhead on Beaumonde in the Movie, not to mention the severity with which she cocks that gun at the stand off in the movie, never mind the reason. Took her a bit, but she developed herself a nice thick skin.

We'd have seen it develop, had the series continued. I suspect Kaylee's character development would have been as dramatic as Willow's in "Buffy."

Yes, I had to defend her - but you started it, didn't you?

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TOASTED

Friday, December 23, 2005 3:41 PM

I've never considered her sweet, innocent or pure. Remember her introduction to Mal in Out of Gas? Simon was way out of her league. But, his options were limited. Yet another big sacrifice he had to make to help his sister. She has always been my least favorite character.

LEIGHKOHL

Friday, December 23, 2005 4:12 PM

Kaylee is young, she's just learning about the world and how to deal with people. How would you like it if somebody said out loud to the person you thought was cute something completely embarrassing? And she was being told by the captain that he basically thought of her as not a girl worth having something fine like the dress she adored(though her fashion taste leaves something to be desired). Another point, just because Kaylee has sex it doesn't mean she's not innocent or pure of heart. Yes, Kaylee is one of my favorite characters, but Channain is right, she would have developed over the series as she got older. But everybody is entitled to their own opinion, so go ahead and hate away, you puritanical meanies.:):)(the last line was a joke so don't be upset, just in case you're sensitive).:)

HIGHWIREDSITH

Friday, December 23, 2005 4:42 PM

I don't hate her!

I do like the fact that she's a total contrast from your typical ship's engineer (as seen in every manifestation of Star Trek there ever was). But it did get a little annoying, every time one of the male characters would say something to hurt her feelings the rest of the crew would give them these "you're just plain evil" looks.

The line in the film "I ain't nothing that wasn't battery powered between my nethers..." was classic. Mal's response was even better! But her turn to the darkside moment with the reavers because she wanted to have sex was, well, just a little weird.

STILLSHINY

Friday, December 23, 2005 5:26 PM

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Originally posted by Channain:
We'd have seen it develop, had the series continued. I suspect Kaylee's character development would have been as dramatic as Willow's in "Buffy."

If I may....Joss himself made this comparison. He said Kaylee was the heart, the sense of family for the crew. He said Kaylee was much like Willow was for Buffy. (I rather disliked Willow in the later seasons of Buffy Puritanical me!) Anyway, the idea was they were a humanizing & emotional connection for the viewer.

If Willow or Kaylee was afraid, Joss (the viewer) was afraid. If Kaylee or Willow said "this is a good person" the viewer (Joss) believed this was a good person.

Did that make any sense???

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LOUGOJIRA

Saturday, December 24, 2005 9:09 AM

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OK, maybe not. But Jayne's line about Kaylee wishing Simon was a gynocologist was flat out hilarious.

Yeah, I laughed at that myself. I don't understand why Mal got so ticked off about it, because he had called Inara a whore in introducing her to Shepherd Book just a little earlier...kind of a double-standard to me, unless he got mad over Jayne's words embarassing Kaylee...oh well, I'm probably analyzing it too deeply.

I understand being annoyed with Kaylee's over-sensitive nature. Heck, in "The Message" episode (the only episode of the 14 I actually don't like), I got annoyed myself. Simon naively says the wrong thing and ends up in the dog house, yet the guy (can't remember his name) hides behind her with guns pointed his way, and everything is peachy? Nope...don't see it happening.

Even though Kaylee's sensitivity can get annoying at times, I personally see it adding to her charm. To me, it sort of gives her an essence of submission...kind of like she's longing for your approval, even though she's a take-charge kind of girl when she needs to be. With so many "I am woman...hear me roar" types of characters cluttering up any and all forms of media, it's actually pretty cool and even refreshing to see her with a kind "puritanical submissiveness" to people, particularly Simon...the man she wants.

BLACKRABBIT

Saturday, December 24, 2005 6:50 PM

Kaylee always strikes me as a nice portrait of a rural female. A frontier child, you might say. She gives what she has openly and honestly. She speaks from her heart and isn't sophisticated in attempting to hide her intent or apologize for her actions. She's not "too cool to care" or subtly aloof like Inara. Kaylee doesn't have Zoe's emotional distance, nor Zoe's strength.

She's absolutely charming.

You know...psychologists say that what we hate in others is what we lack in ourselves.

ANIMALMOTHER

Saturday, December 24, 2005 8:54 PM

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Originally posted by LouGojira:
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OK, maybe not. But Jayne's line about Kaylee wishing Simon was a gynocologist was flat out hilarious.

Yeah, I laughed at that myself. I don't understand why Mal got so ticked off about it, because he had called Inara a whore in introducing her to Shepherd Book just a little earlier...kind of a double-standard to me, unless he got mad over Jayne's words embarassing Kaylee...oh well, I'm probably analyzing it too deeply.

In my opinion, Mal feels as if Kaylee is his little sister; he has moments throughout the series where he shows that kinda overprotective and caring side of him to Kaylee. The pilot episode had a lot of those moments; the Jayne-gynocologist thing obviously, when Kaylee gets shot and he's contemplating whether to run or not and then Kaylee lets out that serious cry in which he then decides to let Simon have his way so long as Kaylee gets medical attention, when Kaylee says shes feeling cold in the infirmary and Mal covers her with a blanket.... We all know Mal has that obligation towards his crew to protect them but it always seems like Kaylee gets most of that affection. He did make fun of her in Shindig with the dress thing but he quickly realized that it wasnt in his true nature to say something like that to Kaylee and obviously redeems himself and her feelings later in the episode. Out of the whole crew, Kaylee does have the most innocense to her, i mean, i think the flowers on her bunk door say it all.

True, Mal calls Inara a whore often but both him and her have that kind of tough loving thing going on where neither of them wanna admit they like each other and instead make subtle insults in an attempt to fool each other and themselves of their true feelings. I guess the whole Mal-Inara thing is another forum topic though...

Kaylee is one of my favorite characters in the series, with the other being Jayne. Kinda funny considering when I think about it theyre probably the two most opposite. I agree with the previous post, I think Kaylee is so intriguing because of her "puritanical submissiveness" and that kind of sensualnees to her where she isnt afraid of expressing her emotions.

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LOUGOJIRA

Saturday, December 24, 2005 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by BlackRabbit:
Kaylee always strikes me as a nice portrait of a rural female. A frontier child, you might say. She gives what she has openly and honestly. She speaks from her heart and isn't sophisticated in attempting to hide her intent or apologize for her actions. She's not "too cool to care" or subtly aloof like Inara. Kaylee doesn't have Zoe's emotional distance, nor Zoe's strength.

She's absolutely charming.

Couldn't have described Kaylee better if I tried!

If Jewel Staite is even half as charming as the character of Kaylee in real life, her boyfriend or husband is seriously one lucky s.o.b.!

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