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Book was an operative!

POSTED BY: GrayFury
UPDATED: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 18:01
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Friday, December 23, 2005 7:13 AM

Ockham's Razor doesn't apply to fiction since you are required to suspend your disbelief just to enjoy the story.

"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam

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Friday, December 23, 2005 7:26 AM

Not all the time. In this case it makes sense. If it doesn't to you...explain how.

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Friday, December 23, 2005 9:25 AM

The simplest explanation is not always the most entertaining or compelling answer. Fiction does not give the answers that are the most simple or logical, it gives the answers that furthers the storyline and makes the story more interesting and compelling.

"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam

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Friday, December 23, 2005 9:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giantevilhead:
The simplest explanation is not always the most entertaining or compelling answer.

"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam



But sometimes it is. Some of the best Hitchcock works when the audience out-thinks itself.

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Friday, December 23, 2005 10:57 AM

True, but in those movies the set up is always far more complicated than needed to reach the conclusion which makes the more simplistic answer more compelling. So far the set up for the mystery of Book's past is very limited, there are very few clues to his past.

"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam

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Friday, December 23, 2005 12:37 PM

my dvd hasnt shipped out to me yet so i obviously need to re-watch it as soon as i can because for some reason i seem to have totally skipped on books line "river...believe in her" god i feel like a gorram fool now, but i guess it makes sense. i need to watch that scene again

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Friday, December 23, 2005 3:34 PM

There are a lot of clues pointing to Book being an operative. But if he were still working why would he let Simon and River sit around for so long instead of turning them in? If he had abandoned his work for sheparding, why would they still take him into the alliaince hospital? I don't remember if the alliaince interveiwed him along with the others in Bushwacked. If so, why would they interveiw someone they already knew? I think Book's past is darker, and more interesting than that. I really want an explination for his line in object in space, "I don't give half a hoot wether your innocent or not.", twords River. Again, if he was simply talking about her being a fugitve and returning her to Blue Sun, why would he never make an atempt?

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Friday, December 23, 2005 4:17 PM

Now that's a great thought. That would give greater meaning to the exchange with Simon when Book tells him the significance of Serenity. It would also explain the ID getting him prompt attention....hmmm I like this thought. It would explain the attraction to the name Serenity when Kaylee is talking with him. It covers everything nicely. Yes I think you have truly great thought here!

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Friday, December 23, 2005 7:04 PM

I completely agree with you. I feel that as operatives retire, they go into hiding as shepards. I feel as though Operative Coda will become a shepard..and if another movie or series were to be made, the crew may run into him again...as a shepard.

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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 6:01 PM

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Originally posted by dewfpd:
I completely agree with you. I feel that as operatives retire, they go into hiding as shepards. I feel as though Operative Coda will become a shepard..and if another movie or series were to be made, the crew may run into him again...as a shepard.



I stand firmly by the belief that the Operative killed himself for his sins. That was a strong personal belief of his, I think he applied it to himself. He may have been planning to do so anyway after the compleation of his mission, after all, he was not helping to build a world without sin so that he could live in it.

Although its still a possibilty that operatives become Shepards, I suppose. If you can no longer 'believe' for the good of the allmighty Aliance, might as well belive for Jesus.

Or I guess its a possibility that if ex-ops then became Missionaries on backwater moons, they could spread 'gospel' of the Aliance by disguising it as the gospel of jesus. Or something.

Anyway, back to Book. He could have been an operative at one point, who 'believed' in the Aliance without asking questions, and then found out what he was really fighting for. Might have been Miranda, but I doubt it. The Aliance is full of sneaky bastards doing evil things. Could be Book discovered something worse. Anyway, he got out. And he did it in such a way as that he didn't make any enimies in the process, which is why he got medical care after they saw his ID card. Cause Book is a smarty pants like that.

And as to his final words "River...believe in her." He said earlier that Mal had to belive in something keeping in mind that Mal should believe in River. Book was hoping that Mal would stumble upon this on his own (and maybe he had) but before he died, Book had to make surehe knew. Book probably started beliving in River a long time ago, he spent time with her, didn't he? Maybe something happened while he was on the ship to make him believe in her. Something we never saw on the show.

Anyway, i'm late for work now.

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