Serenity without Wash and Book?...how?
POSTED BY: shooto
UPDATED: Friday, December 23, 2005 19:18
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I believe that their loss will add extra depth to future Firefly/Serenity stories. I just hope that we don't see anyone else in the crew die in the next Movie/Series. We could go without a major loss for a while, and the crew would start getting a little too thinned.
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No worries Shooto. It happens :). Thankyou Angel for your concern, much appreciated :) I guess Wash and Book dieing seals the fate that there wont be anymore TV episodes. :(
My friend has seen Serenity but not Firefly. So he was confused how Simon and River where on Serenity. I give him a rundown of the pilot and I've also bought him the Firefly boxset for christmas. Another Browncoat in the making me thinks :)
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Originally posted by shooto:
I just can't figure out how Serenity can continue without Wash and Book...how can you kill off MAJOR characters, family members really, and keep the same vibe?
I'm sure this has been brought up...anyone have ideas or point to a thread that already discusses it?
thanks
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Originally posted by wolfe426:
Book, I could see them killing that character off but Wash? Joss Whedon should be hanged for killing off one of our beloved characters.
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Originally posted by captaincdc:Quote:
Originally posted by Spinland:
Kaylee and Simon have a very wrong, doomed relationship to stumble through.
Wrong? Doomed?
I like Kaylee and Simon together at least for now. Opposites attract and all that.
You three obviously need a little insight into the Whedonverse.
First off, Shooto and Wolfe: It's Joss's job to kill off our favorite characters. If he can hurt us, then his show becomes moret han just a show. And you think he should be hanged for making the movie an experience? Andt his isn't the first time he's killed off some of our favorite characters...
Buffy and Angel Death List:
Buffy (x2)
Jenny Calendar
Angel (x2)
Spike (x2)
Doyle
Cordelia
Joyce Summers
Wesley
Fred
Tara
Darla (x3)
Lindsey
Lilah
Anya
etc.
Second, CaptainCDC: Doomed? Of course they're doomed! Every relationship ever to exist in the Whedonverse (except for Willow & Kennedy, which didn't last long enough to count) will always end in badness and terror. Even though I was glad to see Simon and Kaylee together at last, I was also thinking "Oh shit". They might be together for a season, maybe two! But something will happen. In fact, you can consider Wash and Zoe lucky, seeing as death is the least painful of things tah tcould happen to a couple in the Whedonverse.
Also, one last word of Whedonverse wisdom for you: Not everyone who dies in these shows stay dead. Joss is very good at bringing people back from the dead (Hell, they might not have ever been dead, even!). Now Wash, he was staked trhough the heart. he ain't coming back from that, but Book... I suspect he's harder to kill than that.
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lol...thanks for the insight-
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Psst! Shooto!
Check it out:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/reviews.asp?r=363
Scroll down - you'll like what you read in the PS.
Tracy
P.S.: And Joss repeated it to Alan in the final panel at Flanvention 2 weeks ago, making him very happy (and certain I wasn't making it up when I'd told him the same thing the night before at dinner...)
"Can I make a suggestion that doesn't involve violence? Or is this the wrong crowd?" (Wash)
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Awesome!
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Woo Hoo! hes gonna bring Wash back
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Yup this is the whedon weakness, Killem, Killem all.
No just kidding it's truly part of his style. Like it or not. I remember thinking about this during the original airing of the tv series and was concerned when and who it was going to happen to, not if. The ironic part was Fox beat'em to it.
I have watched the original and dvd editions many times. This movie is a movie. An enitity to itself almost. Maybe it had to be. Maybe to draw in all those non scifi types to the box office it had to be different. Maybe movies dont function as an extension of series? Nah. Wasnt that way with S.T. movies.
Lots of bang crash killing and action. Disposing of a couple of friendly characters along the way.
It doesnt wash with me. And I hope the book doesnt end here. Glad to know that it was a 2 picture deal.
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the whole reason i love mr whedon is that he can kill off main characters. other tv shows would never dare to do that and it makes it a bit too comfy and safe becasue whats the point of putting characters in weekly peril if at the back of your mind you are constantly thinking "oh its ok, they're main characters theres no way they're gonna die". joss doesnt allows us the satisfaction of feeling that safe and thats why i really respect his writing. one of my favourite aspects of the end of the BDM is that after book and wash, you really believe that at any second any one of em could die, from zoe being sliced by a reaver, inara being jumped on, kaylee getting hit, simon getting shot, and river running out into the pit of reavers, it doesnt let you feel safe for a second and thats amazing.
someone pointed it out earlier that both buffy and angel have survived major character deaths, and as awful as they may have been , its the way in which the characters cope with these deaths that make the shows so interesting. the end of serenity doesnt really allow us to see the full extent of zoe's grief but i can imagine it would be really gripping and interesting to watch. also the way in which books deaths so obviously affected mal is vital to any kind of future storylines.
but all the rumours id heard were that if any more films were to be made they would be prequels to serenity so maybe that wouldnt happen anyway.
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