Serenity without Wash and Book?...how?

POSTED BY: shooto
UPDATED: Friday, December 23, 2005 19:18
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SHOOTO

Thursday, December 22, 2005 5:25 PM

I just can't figure out how Serenity can continue without Wash and Book...how can you kill off MAJOR characters, family members really, and keep the same vibe?

I'm sure this has been brought up...anyone have ideas or point to a thread that already discusses it?

thanks

SAMEERTIA

Thursday, December 22, 2005 5:30 PM

The vibe will change.
The crew will grow and develop in new ways.

The wheel never stops turning, and it doesn't just matter to the people on the rim. It keeps going, and the cogs shift and fill in the gaps.

GRAYFURY

Thursday, December 22, 2005 5:40 PM

Thats life... (or in this case the imitation of life) its a testament to the project, "how can this be?!?" I, as I'm sure we all have, have lost important people in my life. Its hard, its a struggle through the mire of denial. The vacuum of loss makes life in the present seem muddled and surreal. But life goes on... Maybe Mal takes a trip to Southdown abbey to get Books death off his chest. River is quite a capable pilot. and Zoe will find love elsewhere... shes been through as much as anybody on the ship. Maybe she starts F'in Jayne....Oh wait, she would never let that happen.

"Smellin' alot of IF comin' offa' this plan!"

SERENYTY

Thursday, December 22, 2005 5:41 PM

personally I think this is what makes a good story. The last...6-7 minutes (after the funeral) are the most powerful to me. The ability to go on with a terrible loss like that... that shows the strength of the crew. The fact that they can pick up and keep on going: that's truly interesting.

I'll miss them too. But we needed to see with their deaths that we didn't know what was going to happen. All of them could have died, and we were afraid. If they killed Wash, then anything could happen.

~A message from Serenyty~

GEEJAKE

Thursday, December 22, 2005 5:42 PM

Like many Movie franchises did..They went on without important characters..Still got 7 great characters 8 if you include the new alliance operative...This has been debated on both sides of the isle on many threads..Any threads with fans feedback on the movie usually touches on the Why are they dead question...My guess is at least 99% of the people on this site are fans of Firefly or Serenity if not both..That being the case you are probably a Joss fan..So I would suggest that watching the intro by Joss would be a great idea...I cant remember it word for word but if you dont like the Movie this is a time for Quiet and deep reflexion for the next few months...I guess alot of people thought Joss was joking...

SHOOTO

Thursday, December 22, 2005 5:45 PM

so, nothing's been hinted at?

I think Zoe is pregnant...

SHOOTO

Thursday, December 22, 2005 5:53 PM

no..I am a real fan of both...didn't see Joss's intro and will check it out...

again, this is probably beating a dead horse...to the fans of the show that had so much invested in the characters...it makes no sense...I can't pick an "expendable" character...I, like others, had grown attached-

for the fans of just the movie, it probably doesn't matter...since they didn't invest in knowing the characters and they may seem minor-

we know they weren't-

WOLFE426

Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:28 PM

The only problem I had with the movie was that Wash was killed too quickly ... almost like a passing thought ... too small to even notice and Zoe's response to Wash's death seemed too cold and unfeeling.

Book, I could see them killing that character off but Wash? Josh Whedon should be hanged for killing off one of our beloved characters.

From what I'm hearing though, is that Firefly could return as a new movie, but only for the small screen. You never know though, Universal might very well put up the movie for a sequel if fans buy the DVD like crazy. But Universal's plan to offer a $10 discount on Battlestar Galactica is going to backfire. Why? Because fans will go out and buy 20th Century Fox's Firefly DVD Boxed set.

SPINLAND

Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:39 PM

How?

Well, for starters, keeping the same vibe was never an option with Whedon. His characters were (are? one hopes) going to endure major changes and shake-ups as time wore on. Keeping the same actors in the same roles year after year is for Trek, not Firefly.

How could they go on? Zoe has major loss/abandonment issues to work through, which could actually put cracks in her unswerving loyalty to Mal. Mal has to reconcile a new worldly perspective in the face of the "same old same old" grind of keeping his ship flying--not to mention guilt issues over Book's death (and maybe also Wash's, since it was his Reaver Gambit that got Wash killed). Simon has to let go and let River flex her wings. River has a life to recapture, and her place in the crew is still a new, untested thing. Kaylee and Simon have a very wrong, doomed relationship to stumble through. Inara and Mal have lots more relationshiop issue stuff to work out. Jayne ... has more Being Jayne to do.

The show could so very much go on, and just as good as ever, with many a devious plot turn and twist afoot.

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"That's what governments are for, [to] get in a man's way." -- Malcolm Reynolds

SHOOTO

Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:54 PM

Spinland...interesting views-

and you're right I think about keeping the same vibe not an option...it isn't Trek...but, damn, it was like watching one of your friends get killed-

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