Serenity vs. Chronicles of Riddick

POSTED BY: harshcritic
UPDATED: Friday, December 23, 2005 22:49
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STILLSHINY

Thursday, December 22, 2005 4:12 PM

Kill the Riddick!!!!!

I'm sorry but this movie sucked. Yes, sucked. really really sucked. (((shiver))) really sucked. The only reason they are prolly even giving it any due is the name Vin Diesel. People will see a s-u-c-k-y movie because a "star" is in it. And sadly enough this is why they are so hesitant to give "Serenity" it's due. Hollywood wants a name it can push. And in this case, a big name did a big lame, (did I mentioned it sucked) movie.

The BDH's are not Big Names to the everyday movie goer. They are the Biggest Sci-Fi stars hands down. But they are not household names. Yet.

Let's face it if the Chron of Ridd. comes out people will say..."Hey, let's go see that new Vin Diesel movie." I mean even your Grandpa knows who Vin Diesel is. But you still have to explain what that Chinese shield thing is on your T-Shirt, or why you say "Shiny" all the time.

The title of this thread could easily be.

A great Sci-Fi epic VS Another (sucky) Vin-Diesel movie.

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GEEJAKE

Thursday, December 22, 2005 5:00 PM

There has to be a way to track DVD sales..I will do some research...

QUEENOFTHENORTH

Thursday, December 22, 2005 5:04 PM

Wow, some people are really angry. I thought Chronicles of Riddick was a great movie. Not as good as Serenity, but what is?

Mind you, I've heard that the director's cut is way better than the theatrical version. I never got to see it in the theatres, so I don't know, but my cousin saw both versions and says the director's cut is way better. It explains way more stuff.

In short, I hope it gets a sequel. I hope Serenity does too. Sequels for everyone!! And one day our BDHs will be Big Damn Big Names. Hopefully everybody will still like them then.

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CITIZEN

Thursday, December 22, 2005 6:03 PM

I didn't think that much of chronicles. It's ok, not great.

Pitch black was fantastic though.

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HARSHCRITIC

Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:40 PM

I not sure if I understand you. Even without marketing, the movie made only a small profit in the theaters. It cost $105 mil and earned $115. So it only made a profit of $10 mil if you don't include marketing.

If you use the same standards to compare Serenity, then it was only -$1 mil lost. (Serenity cost $40 mil and earned $39 mil worldwide.) Usually, when they discuss sequels or even a trilogy, the movie earns a big profit in theaters and I pretty sure they do take into consideration the cost of marketing.

The sequels are:
Chronicles of Riddick 2: The Underverse
Chronicles of Riddick 3: Return to Furia

Here is a link discussing the sequels:
http://www.movieweb.com/news/news.php?id=7121

NDRAGE85

Thursday, December 22, 2005 8:20 PM

I too never saw it in theaters. i really liked Pitch Black, but Chronicles seemed so different from PB and was getting horrible reviews. But after seeing it on DVD, i decided i really shouldn't rely on reviews so heavily, because I enjoyed Riddick. the version i saw was the Director's Cut version. I've seen part of the theatrical version on HBO, and yes, the Director's Cut is much better. Explains a lot more and has slightly less cheesy dialogue.

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Originally posted by queenofthenorth:
Wow, some people are really angry. I thought Chronicles of Riddick was a great movie. Not as good as Serenity, but what is?

Mind you, I've heard that the director's cut is way better than the theatrical version. I never got to see it in the theatres, so I don't know, but my cousin saw both versions and says the director's cut is way better. It explains way more stuff.

In short, I hope it gets a sequel. I hope Serenity does too. Sequels for everyone!! And one day our BDHs will be Big Damn Big Names. Hopefully everybody will still like them then.

"Sir, you actually said 'wink, wink'. I don't think that -"
"Oh, you'd be surprised."

"Yes, the new plan will STILL involve rocket skates."
"YAY!"

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SIRVEC

Thursday, December 22, 2005 8:41 PM

I tink some of you are missing the shiney part of this. Pitch Black was a good movie but did not do all that well in the theater but do to DVD sales and a growing fan base (odd were have I heard this before) Universal made a sequel for it. And if you remeber "Vin" was not a big star at the time. At that point all he was know for was the guy who got shot trying to save that French kid in "Saving Private Ryan". So take heart Browncoats if Universal is thinking of greeniighting more Riddick flicks they may take a more kindly look as your and ours. That is id DVD sales are good enough (they are still suits after all)

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RELFEXIVE

Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:55 PM

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Originally posted by Gixxer:
Why's everyone badmouthing it? Wasn't too bad a film.

The bit with Aslan's death really got me...

Dumbass....Could have put a spoiler there, seeing as not everyone have read the book. Frak me.

Hmm... I'm not sure you can really shout "spoiler" about part of the plot of a book that's been out for fifty years and has been read by millions of children in that time...

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AAHHAAA

Friday, December 23, 2005 2:59 AM

If there hasn't been one already, a good thread might be 'Great Lost Scifi Flicks that didn't have a Big Star or Big Promo Budget, but are really kinda Memorable Films.'

here's a couple off the top:

12:01
The Little Navigator
Run, Lola, Run
Brazil

I'd rather not compare Serenity to Riddick; its more comparable to 5th Element, imho.

J6NGO1977

Friday, December 23, 2005 4:34 AM

Brazil. Terry Gilliam. brilliant film and so underated.

Riddick is an OK film but not a patch on Pitch Black. Serenity and Firefly owe a good nod towards Pitch Black with the style of cinematography and direction

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