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MERCUTIO

Wednesday, July 9, 2003 7:49 PM

Hello all,
First ever post here. It's kinda funny, because I registered just so I could express my discontent with the FOX network. Kindred spirits! Now here's what I propose. Let's start a web site, called ***trumpet fanfare***

www.WHYFOXSUCKS.com

And on it, we'll list off all the good shows that have been canceled as tribute and list all the shitty alternatives they have provided. On it, we have polls as to the shows people vote to be the worst on Fox, and the best that were canceled. And maybe get sued for slander. I see it as personal expression minus the copyright violations they seem to hate.

I figure, it'd be better than sitting around cursing Fox to the end of my days. Because otherwise I will, every time I watch an episode of Firefly. Hell, I need some catharsis. I read some of shows that some of you liked that were cancled, and yeah, I liked a lot of them too. But I loved Firefly. The stylistic cinematography and efficient pacing and dialogue and effective characterization is like nothing I've ever enjoyed from television in any genre. People complained about its bastardization of the sci-fi genre, discrediting the science behind it. But really, what about the thermodynamic impossibilities of light speed. Heck I've always enjoyed Star Trek TNG, but to me, even the weakest episode of Firefly kicked its ass. Except for that one episode where Data tries a human relationship. That was great :) I love Joss Whedon's other shows too, but I love Firefly 10 times more than both, if that gives you any scope. Firefly touches on a much more realistic darkness, minus the melodrama of metaphor.

Wait a sec, this post was supposed to be a mindless cathartic bashing of Fox and now I'm starting to talk pretentiously. So yeah, this web site must be made. Fans must be heard! I'm sure this would take me a night at most to make. So who's with me???

JOHNNYREB

Wednesday, July 9, 2003 8:16 PM

Set it up! I'll save it under favorites.

Viva Firefly!

RUXTON

Thursday, July 10, 2003 1:14 AM

That's a great idea for a website, and I suspect you'll get a lot of attention.

BTW, it is not impossible to exceed the speed of light in some situations/conditions.

[From one of many sources:]
"Superluminal tunneling (faster than light transmission of signals) was first observed at the University of Cologne with microwave photons. Soon thereafter these experiments were duplicated and validated at the University of Berkeley and Vienna. For theoretical physics the implication is that there exist spaces, devoid of time." Research by Prof. Dr. Guenther Nimtz, Prof. Raymond Chiao and others.

Search Google for "Superluminal Tunneling"

Also, anti-grav exists, with all that implies. See the work of Fran deAquino.

And for a BUNCH of heavy reading, see Col. Tom Bearden's notes on his patented MEG (free energy ramifications), which produces more energy than is input.

Much of what we have learned as science fiction is actually coming to pass as reality, with no end in sight, except for its being blocked or hidden, much like Fox hid the light of "Firefly."

........Ruxton

MERCUTIO

Thursday, July 10, 2003 1:53 AM

My apologies, I guess I wasn't specific enough. I shouldn't have discounted travelling at the speed of light altogether and the science behind it. I just meant that sending a human being to the speed of light would require kilometres of lead in front of the person so that they weren't killed instantly by radiation. Just that it's easy to nitpick the science. Now granted, maybe in the future they'll have invented stuff to guard against this, but my point was just that folks can be awfully legalistic about sci-fi science.

DRAKON

Thursday, July 10, 2003 11:41 AM

"BTW, it is not impossible to exceed the speed of light in some situations/conditions."

Not only that, but take a look at the work of Miguel Alcuberria concerning warp drive. While beyond present technology at this time, the counter arguments for it have all been technical. Meaning the underlying theory seems sound, it just takes a lot of mass/energy to do. (But there are ways around that, or so it appears.)

Warp drive. Coming (not) soon (enough)

"My kind of stupid"

DRAKON

Thursday, July 10, 2003 11:48 AM

"I just meant that sending a human being to the speed of light would require kilometres of lead in front of the person so that they weren't killed instantly by radiation."

Science is not a set of theories about the operation of the universe. It is a process by which we obtain models of how the universe works. And a damn effective means as well.

When science tells you that you need tons of lead if you are travelling at the speed of light, this is a misnomer. Our present theories, our present models indicate this requirement. (Blue shifting of the CMBR.) However, reality shows us there is more than one way to skin a cat.

Light follows geodesics in space time. If the geodesic is curved, the path is bent from a straight line. Since warp drive requires the bending or warping of the underlying space-time manifold in the first place, putting an added kink to deflect the above radiation should present no additional problems. Thereby making the requirements for sheilding negliable.

(Sorry, I think about this stuff waaaay too much.)

"My kind of stupid"

MERCUTIO

Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:40 PM

Ok you win, I should've never casually included a reference to a science I am by no means an expert in. :) All I wanted was to say how much I enjoyed the production, film and theatrical elements of Firefly more than the science behind it. I've always enjoyed the human aspects and projections of sci-fi more than the tech.

So in conclusion, Firefly gag reel funny :)

DUTCH

Thursday, July 10, 2003 5:57 PM

What I like about Firefly is that they don't even try to explain the science behind everything like they do in Star Trek. I don't care what a dilithium crystal is, or how anti-matter works..

For example, Capt. Mal would say "Why ain't we movin?" and Kaylee would say "This thingy's broke". Capt. Picard would say "Engineering, what's wrong with the warp core?" and Laforge would say "Well there's a slight imbalance in the phase inverters that's making the plasma flow yadda yadda yadda".. I don't care what's making the plasma do what, just fix the damn thing and get on with the story!

TRAGICSTORY

Thursday, July 10, 2003 7:35 PM

If Scotty heard you HE WOULD KICK YOUR ASS!

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"Societies are supported by human activity, therefore they are constantly threatened by the human facts of self-intrest and stupidity." --Peter Berger

JOHNNYREB

Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:32 PM

Yeah! But then, even Scotty knew when to tune it down.

Geordie Leforge blah, blah, blahs his way through STNG. Seriously, if we can't figure out how to build our own starships by the time "Reading Rainbow" is done gabbing, I don't know what to say for ourselves. Scotty, by contrast, talks about dilithium crystals, but that seems to be about it. I don't know if the original writers were too knowledgeable about science. I even saw an episode when Scotty (or Kirk) recommended dumping nuclear waste into the ventilation system to kill what ever was humping the Enterprise, AND EVERYBODY THOUGHT IS WAS A GREAT IDEA! I don't mind being left in the dark, just don't insult my intelligence. But then, that is what made the old Star Trek...funny.

Viva Firefly!

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