*Important question in the decision to get a 2nd copy of Serenity: How was the Full Frame made?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Friday, December 23, 2005 02:28
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Originally posted by ethan:
. . .even though I can clearly tell some of the picture on the far left and right are being cut, I much liked the full screen version better all the same. Much better in fact.
Pardon me while I go weep for humanity.
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Originally posted by ethan:
I just got through a viewing of the full screen version after three prior viewings of the widescreen. I have to say, even though I can clearly tell some of the picture on the far left and right are being cut, I much liked the full screen version better all the same. Much better in fact. It just felt more intimate, and Firefly like without all the black on the screen. That's my 2 cents.
Ewwwww! Sorry, but ten years from now, when all TVs are 19X9, you'll think otherwise.
I have a 16X9 TV, and it still has black bars (just less so than on a 4X3 TV), and it looks great! I'd never buy a full screen DVD (and even when I was buying VHS, I always bought the widescreen version when possible). It's they way the director shot it, and the way we saw it in the theater, so any true purest wouldn't want to see it any other way!
For those that choose to live in the past, there's always Wal-Mart! They always buy more fullscreen DVDs than Widescreen! They likes to sell them DVDs that don't have those confusing black bar thingys on dem! Yee Haw! Where's my spit cup?
I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.
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BTW Ethan, the Firefly DVD set presents each episode in widescreen too!
I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.
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Quote:Don't let the widescreen purists upset you, I know what you mean. I always get widescreen, but I also get full frame on certain movies, like I Robot, where the widescreen feels like you're lookin' down a long hallway it was shot so wide, and the full frame brings the important things up close. Of course, full frame loses some detail due to it's non-anamorphic nature, but it also depends how big your TV is and how close you sit to it, etc.
Originally posted by ethan:
I just got through a viewing of the full screen version after three prior viewings of the widescreen. It just felt more intimate, and Firefly like without all the black on the screen.
Chrisisall, the flexable viewer
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Pardon me while I go weep for humanity.
/me joins
The only way in hell I will condone use of 4:3 is if the movie/series is made in 4:3 in the first place. Watching a movie/series in the wrong aspect _completely_ ruins it. It's not even debatable. Why don't you just go take a dump in the directors garden while you're at it? Or go take a piss in the cinematographers mailbox? I'm sure they would much prefer that over you watching a gang raped version of their work.
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Chrisisall clearly spelled out that he had bought the widescreen first, and simply wanted reviews of the fullscreen, which Ethan kindly provided (particularly valuable post since he spelled out he had seen widescreen previously). Nobody (as far as I could tell) has ever said full is better than wide, merely different.
Let's put a slightly different spin on the original question:
I'm considering buying a fullscreen copy to donate to my local library, on the theory that library DVD borrowers are less likely to have widescreen TVs, and that fullscreen might be a better first experience for them.
Ethan, Chrisisall, and any other 
"flexable viewer"s, what do you think?
Maybe I should buy both versions for the library? I wonder if that would mean two entries in their catalog?
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Pardon me while I go weep for humanity.
More joining in.
Okay...heres the deal with film. The only 35mm film that actually captures at fullframe is anamorphic, but that has to do with the type of camera and lens being used. It uses more of the film stock as opposed to having gaps between the frames. All 35mm film cameras capture in the widescreen format.
Okay, so back to the original question...or statement...or whatever. No, the FS version doesn't have anything new...in fact, like the others have said, it has less. FS has this disgusting little thing called pan & scan which just makes things look unnatural.
I'd say donate the Widescreen version. Have those kids grow up knowing what a film was meant to look like.
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Quote:Well, I got the full frame, and it was interesting. I saw many a detail on Serenity herself that were not apparent to me on the widescreen. I also felt that the actor's closeups had more impact when 'blown up'.
Originally posted by Chipmunk:
Nobody (as far as I could tell) has ever said full is better than wide, merely different.
But there was no extra top and bottom, it was just 'zoomed in on'. The widescreen is DEFINITLY better, but once in a while I'm gonna feel like seein' our BDH's faces all big-like, know what I mean?
Quote:It's my opinion based on working at Circuit City that the casual viewer not inclined to buy movies will prefer the full screen; however many who borrow at the library might have a more complete experience with the widescreen. But if you can't get both, full screen is a safer general bet for now- and if any really like it intensely, the widescreen will always be at Best Buy!
I'm considering buying a fullscreen copy to donate to my local library, on the theory that library DVD borrowers are less likely to have widescreen TVs, and that fullscreen might be a better first experience for them.
FYI:
Movies I like better full screen are
Mad Max
Blue Thunder
Who Am I?
Independence Day
Spiderman 2
I, Robot
But most movies ARE best served in widescreen
Chrisisall, lookin' for toilet paper in the director's garden...
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Originally posted by MacBaker:
I have a 16X9 TV, and it still has black bars (just less so than on a 4X3 TV), and it looks great!
And whats the deal with that? Its the reason I still haven't bought a 16x9 TV. I'd rather buy a projector and rig up a screen.
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Most widescreen tv's have a 1.85 to 1 ratio, or thereabouts (although many vary), so, for instance, Spider-man will completely fill the screen, while Spider-man 2 will have smallish black areas top and bottom, that one being a 2.35 to 1 film. Many widescreen tv's have controls that allow you to zoom in ever so slightly to fill the screen to get rid of the 'black bars', but this will also affect the detail of the picture.
*the black bars sing*
"If 2.35 to 1's here,
We're near.
Get used to it!"
Chrisisall
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