Your reaction? [Serenity Spoiler]
POSTED BY: iheartwash
UPDATED: Thursday, December 22, 2005 12:55
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Who will care for the dinosaurs?!
That's what I thought when I saw all the little dinosaurs left on the...control panel thingy.
It was also quite sad to see that Zoe didn't even cry - guess that's her character, but still.Stupid Joss. He killed
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Anya (my favorite Buffy character)
as well! Stupid senseless death. Stupid war.
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Like I always tell my son, "Remember, it's only a movie. The actor's still alive and performing in Spamalot on Broadway."
Well, not now that Hank Azaria is back. I saw Spamalot with Alan, and he was fantastic...some people have said he's even better than Hank, though I've no basis for comparison. I'm sure they're both equally talented.
~Ah, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!~
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Books death didn't faze me at all other than annoyance for the cliche death scene.
EG: OK, I've survived JUST long enough to pass on the important message. Oh look, a doctor. Thud. "He's dead Jim!"
Wash, on the other hand. Wow! Totaly unexpected. Felt like I got kicked in the chest when that spike came through the window.
Just kind of lost track of what was happening for a minute or two after that. Mind spinning with possibilities. Was it an optical illusion? Could he have really survived somehow? Nope. Damn.
All of a sudden, everyone was in danger. Who is gonna get killed next? Are they all gonna die? Will they even succeed in getting the message out?
All of a sudden everything was in doubt. I didn't like that Wash died but it allowed for something I've never felt for "heroes" in a movie before. Real fear that they just might not make it.
Every other movie I ever saw, I KNEW the hero would succedd. You just DO, cause THAT'S THE FORMULA! After Wash got killed, I wasn't 100% sure any more.
I figured the message would still get out cause I didn't think Joss would be so mean to let them completely fail but there was still that seed of doubt. I wasn't sure who if anybody would get out alive. There was always the chance even Mal could send the message as a dying action. Kind of like pushing the button at hte end of O-O-G but succeeding this time - Or maybe NOT! No Zoe available to back him up this time if he didn't quite make it...
That is not easy to do and make it work so well in a hollywood action movie format.
I gained some respect for Universal beacause they let him do it. That had to be an interesting meeting when Joss had to sell them the idea that a main character gets killed. It just aint done.
Gotta respect Joss for that alone if nothing else.
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When I went to see Serenity with my mum, there was a Browncoat sittin' right behind me. How do I know this is true? She cackled when Kaylee told Mal off ("Tell that to Inara!"), seemed to understand every little nuance, gasped when River went "SODMIGSOFDMIOASIMADOMDAIMFSODGOMMMGGGGGFRUITYOATYBARS!?"...
Not to mention full out crying when Wash died. Hearing her crying, I was compelled to shed a tear or two. I mean, Wash was my favorite character. Funny AND smart, as opposed to Jayne. He was blonde. Funny. Married to a warrior woman. Innocent as Kaylee. Disbelief, one might say, the Browncoat and me both.
Then dear Lord, it looked like Joss was gonna kill everyone, including my beloved River and Inara, and I was -about- to leave the theater (I get slightly emotional when confronted with mass beloved character death, though I'm no Joss virgin) when River started to kick ass. Hope. Ah, shining hope...
Anyways, I gave my two cents, time to shut up.
Insert pithy witticism here.
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Am i the only one who thinks the killing of Wash made the rest of the movie kind of sour? I just couldn't seem to get any enjoyment out of the last minutes of the movie because of it. Wash is quite simply my favorite character in the verse, and I still firmly believe that killing him off was a mistake.
When Firefly is airing again, I just hope they do some cheesy soap turn and get his identical twin on board (or maybe they somehow clone him), cause Firefly without Wash = Poo!
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Ah, Sic, that would be a huge, huge mistake. It would make all the angst that every single Browncoat went through obsolete, worthless, a sham. Even though Wash's death is evil, terrible, horrible, and all manner of unwelcome, what's done is done.
No use cryin' over spilt milk, even if it makes you feel better. Or not.
Therefore, Wash is dead, he ain't comin' back, but dear Lord, let Zoe be pregnant with his child.
As for the sour-making, yeah, it really does bite like that. Perhaps through repeated watching, the pain will numb...
Insert pithy witticism here.
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It was so sudden, I never saw it coming. Mind you'd I'd avoided all spoilers or talk about the upcoming movie, so I could see it all 100% fresh and new. For the first few seconds, I couldn't even believe it, but as Wash's death sank in, it added an extra depth of emotion for the remainder of the movie.
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My last post was kind of not entirely serious. Of course I don't want a cheese extravaganza in an eventual new FF series, but the way I see it now is jaded because of my thoughts on Wash' death. IMHO, his death would have worked like a bloody charm if I weren't a fan of the series. Meaning, it feels like Joss kinda sold out on the series to make the film better on it's own.
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When I saw that big gorram stick make its unkind way through the pilot's chest, I was thunderstruck. I don't cry, I really don't, but right then, I came closer than I have in years. I too believed that Joss was going Douglas Adams on the crew of Serenity, wrapping it all up by killing off pretty much everygorrambody.
I had to avoid a friend of mine who was planning to see the movie after the opening night for three days, simply so I wouldn't give away that bombshell.
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Joss and Alan had already decided Wash was going to die before a movie was even made. Wash was going to die in season 2 if Firefly had stayed on.
So, no, Joss did not sell out the movie by killing Wash.
"What'd y'all order a dead guy for?"
Jayne Cobb
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I saw Serenity on opening day, and I had watched the series on SciFi over the summmer, and bought the boxset a couple weeks before the movie came out. When Wash died, I think I may have actually shrieked in the theatre. I mean first Book dies and then Serenity CRASHS! There's this one shot of Serenity barrelling down the runway and one of her engines gets smashed off and I thought I was going to loose it. Then there was that one quiet moment after they stopped, and I could feel the entire audience letting out their communal breath when BOOM, harpoon. I don't think I actuallly cried until the funeral scene, but I know I was still crying when I left the theatre.
I've seen the movie over a half a dozen times since then, and I still gasp and/or cry everytime it gets to that part. It's just hearbreaking.
"We will rule over all this land, and we will call it... 'This Land'."
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