Troll calling must stop
POSTED BY: rklenseth
UPDATED: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 19:14
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I can only speak for myself.
I think that negative statements are acceptable and on occasion necessary, as long as they are justified and recited in a civilised manner.
Instant "troll" calling doesn't help anyone.
EDIT: Ah, I just saw our little running gag Xenosomething posted here as well :D Tell us one thing: Why the hell are you still here if you are not interested in either the show nor in anything else concerning it?
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Quote:Trust me, Rklenseth is not a troll. And I wouldn't say that that it is "quite trollish" to have the same article popping up, because, it's just a simple mistake that happens to all of us. It's common on forums.
Originally posted by UnregisteredCompanion:
Same post..many threads...maybe you are not a troll, but it is quite trollish to have the same article keep popping up...apparently with no other purpose than to stir people up.
And as for "No other purpose than to stir people up."? This is the general discussions forum. Here we discuss things related to Firefly and Serenity.
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The funny thing is, I'm awaiting for Joss to be called a troll for comments like this, from his ComingSoon.net interview today:
CS: What's going to happen with the "Serenity" franchise now? Are you just going to put it on the backburner?
Whedon: Yeah, you know, that's pretty much it. It was hard to make and I'm very tired. I need some sleep, and then we'll see if people are interested in more, than I have more say.
CS: Do you think that the Browncoats will still survive and become like the fans of "Star Trek" after that show was cancelled?
Whedon: You know ,who can say? I think that there's something that brings them together. Obviously, right now, this story has been told, so I don't think there will be the same level of intensity, but the community that was built I think exists beyond the story. That's why we do it.
Pretty obviously, he's just being honest. I do believe there's a line between being honest and just trying to annoy people, that's the thing to look for.
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Went and read the interview. Sounds like that is it *for now*. Not permanently, forever kinda now, just *for now*.
Seems like the future of this 'verse hinges on how many folks start loving it and wanting more.
For me, that means telling folks about the show and sharing the show and movie with them. I do two wonderful things that way.... I share something wonderful with people I like and I convert folks. That works in the right direction I think. Then like Joss, I think I'll just ride along here and see where it all falls out.
But I won't give up and I won't quit hoping... I love this story way too much for that. And I think that there are more folks out there that will love it too.
I hope our fanbase can hold... I hope we don't all start disappearing and giving up hope.
"We've done the impossible. That makes us mighty." Mal
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You can only obsess only so long for a show with only 14 episodes. The Original Star trek had 55 episodes, so they had fuel and a reason to be obsessed.
FF is one of the best shows I watched all year and I love it. I also love Serenity, but my obsession for it has ended, which is a good thing.
If I were all of you, I would write Joss a letter or something informing him that if he refuses to do anymore Firefly, all of you as fans will boycott everything else he's writing, and won't go see his other movies. If he doesnt care, then you know what he thinks of all of you, his fanbase, his roof over his head, and his food.
It comes down to this. Joss, Fox and Universal needs all of you more than you guys need them, and I think somewhere down the line someone forgot about this.
Myself? Battlestar Galactica is filling my post- Firefly life, ( My series just got the green light for season 3!) so I am very happy.
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So, does this me that we can't poke you in the eye with a stick?
Drats!
Go SERENITY! Go FIRELFY!
LONG may she fly, in whatever verse they can find for her!
And, happy holidays, one and all!
MaTwang
Holiday Troll for FIREFLY
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[quote[Battlestar Galactica is filling my post- Firefly life
I find time in my life for both shows.
Who says you should only be faithful and a fan of just one?
Gelassenheit means Serenity
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Heeeeere, trolly trolly trolly. Here, boy. That's a good troll. Come on, trolly boy. Here, troll.
....... Oh, wait... that's not the kind of troll calling you meant?
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I am happy as well that Battlestar Galactica got greenlighted for another season. It's about as good as it gets on tv now.
But...I don't have a post or pre Firefly life.. I just have a life and it can include lots of different things.
I think Joss'life includes lots of different things too. I don't think he has as much say about whether there is more Firefly as the market does. This is a commodity like any other, the market will demand more or it won't. I for one like sharing good things, so I'm gonna share Firefly, hopefully increasing it's market.
I'm just sayin'..
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Originally posted by rklenseth:
I've been a member of the fansbase for over two years now and saw Firefly when it first aired. Now I remember back in the old days when there were real trolls about and how we would poke them with sticks but now this whole troll thing has gotten out of hand.
Now we have people (claiming to be Browncoats) calling people trolls for posting anything negative about Firefly/Serenity for example the EW article that states Whedon stated that there wasn't going to be anymore Firefly/Serenity movies. And now it seems I have been branded a troll as well as others not only on this site for posting this article. And I have seen it regards to other things too where people say negative things and they get crushed under a bunch of people calling them a troll.
Posting something negative and not hiding from the truth of things is not trolling. Some Browncoats aren't as upbeat about the potential of a sequel as some others. That doesn't make them a troll or change the fact that they Firefly/Serenity as much as you. We are just the 'glass is half empty' crowd. So please stop branding us as trolls because you are pushing people away from the fanbase especially some Browncoats who were around before the movie even was a thought and they are the ones who help get the movie in the first damn place.
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Rklenseth, Here! Here! I agree and am cheering you on for saying it! I've been trying to come to my own conclusions about the same issue for a few weeks now but haven't been able to formulate a response quite like you did.
I've been on the boards for almost two years now and I'm cynical when it comes to some things like Hollywood, the media and politics and opinionated when it comes to what I love and do not love about Firefly's various incarnations as a TV show, a movie and comic books. Along the way, I've ruffled a few feathers with my opinions and wish that I could take back a few of my responses written on the fly after reading someone's attack on me and my opinions. However, I don't think that people who have negative or cynical opinions should be thrown in the troll baggie and mailed off to troll land or be told that they should shut up because someone doesn't like their opinion like I was three times in one post when I argued that the Flanvention was too expensive for a meet and greet.
My frustration with the board lately is that it's like being stuck in a groundhog day situation where you keep on showing up at someone's house for the first time and you don't know them, so you have to put on a mask and be on your best behavior, in the sense that you can only say positive, upbeat or funny things about the topic under discussion. And, in this groundhog day situation, you can't say what you really think about anything if it's negative or cynical or in any other way not positive, funny and uplifting without someone jumping on your case.
Rklenseth, I've recently thought about not posting here anymore because of the very issue upon which you touch in this thread which makes me sad.
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