Firefly cancelled for hitting on the truth!
POSTED BY: truthishere
UPDATED: Sunday, June 25, 2006 21:38
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Looks like a thread for the tin-foil hat file.
"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle."
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Originally posted by truthishere:
Firefly is IMO better than Star Trek, Battlestar Galactica, etc. so it could not have been cancelled because of the money... The fact that it was made into a great movie by POPULAR demand, and is gaining popularity all over the world would lend itself to being a great money maker. The movie was made on rather a workable budget.
The movie has made 50% of it's production budget on box office release (after you remove the theatre's take).
Firefly, the TV series, lost millions for Fox Broadcastin Corporation.
Because you think Firefly was better than Star Trek, does not mean it shouldn't be cancelled.
Look, I like Firefly as much as the next person, and hell I worked on Serenity -- but you are smoking some serious crack, and you're giving liberals a bad name here.
Firefly was cancelled because it didn't get the ratings. Fox is partly to blame for that. But, whatever way you spin it - if it had the same kind of ratings as Friends, it would have stayed on the air. Money speaks.
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TRUTHISHERE,
You are not alone. I proposed a similar concept some years back, that what we saw in Firefly was way too close to the truth for the powers in control of the media to permit to continue. Of course, many back then didn't realize the extent of gov't corruption existent at the time. This has become more obvious, and many who used to support the current U.S. administration have come to see the truth.
I agree completely with your analysis. Firefly was not allowed to become popular because it could have caused people to investigate things too much, and that would never do.
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SNEAKER98, the onus is on you, not on Truthishere. YOU, not him/her, need to look first at the things he said, not ask him to "work his way up." He is there; you are not. Do some homework on MKUltra. Yes, he's right that Bush is being taken to task now for illegal use of the NSA on U.S. citizens. Before you or anyone else makes a case out of the state of Utah taken out of context, FIRST address the FACTS of MKUltra, etc. If you think they are conspiracies, you are sadly uninformed.
Both you and WHoisRiver think that we can overlook the piss-poor presentation of the series on TV because you think it had nothing to do with the show's failing to make money. How can you be so blind? WhoisRiver said, "Firefly, the TV series, lost millions for Fox Broadcastin Corporation." Now exactly who do you think is responsible for that? HMMMM?
Could it by any chance be the corporations who CONTROL the media and keep it away from the truth? HMMMM?
Wake up, guys, it's LAAATE.
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WhoisRiver said:
"...and you're giving liberals a bad name here."
In today's world the question is NOT liberal vs. conservative, or Republican vs. Democrat. The question is TRUTH vs. LIES. Spend a few thousand hours over the next few years looking into just exactly what you are being told, compared with just exactly what is the truth, and your eyes will be opened.
If you get any percentage of your "news" from TV, you can't have a clue about what's really happening.
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Originally posted by Ruxton:
SNEAKER98, the onus is on you, not on Truthishere. YOU, not him/her, need to look first at the things he said, not ask him to "work his way up." He is there; you are not. Do some homework on MKUltra. Yes, he's right that Bush is being taken to task now for illegal use of the NSA on U.S. citizens. Before you or anyone else makes a case out of the state of Utah taken out of context, FIRST address the FACTS of MKUltra, etc. If you think they are conspiracies, you are sadly uninformed.
Excuse me?
No. It's not. You presented the argument, not me. YOU are the one expected to back it up. To suggest otherwise is simply lazyness. For shame, sir. I'm not doing your homework for you, as this isn't high school anymore.
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Originally posted by Ruxton:
Both you and WHoisRiver think that we can overlook the piss-poor presentation of the series on TV because you think it had nothing to do with the show's failing to make money. How can you be so blind? WhoisRiver said, "Firefly, the TV series, lost millions for Fox Broadcastin Corporation." Now exactly who do you think is responsible for that? HMMMM?
Could it by any chance be the corporations who CONTROL the media and keep it away from the truth? HMMMM?
Wake up, guys, it's LAAATE.
Yes, phrasing vague questions have truley convinced me of your argument.
Lazy assed conspiracy theorists do not convince me of squat. If you're going to present some argument, at least have some form of proof ready.
Next, you'll be telling me that we never landed on the moon. (Please, PLEASE make this argument. My major is Astrophysics, and I do enjoy shooting folks down on this one ;))
"I do the job... and then I get paid. Go run your little world."
-Malcolm Reynolds
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See, the thing is, I fully agree the Bush administration is extremely corrupt.
Now, do I think somebody sat in the Whitehouse going "Shit! That programme on Fox! Firefly! They might make it to Miranda and uncover the truth! CANCEL THAT SHOW!"?
No.
Universal made the motion picture. Did it kill the whitehouse? Did anything happen?
No.
I hate George W. Bush. Do I think he, or anybody remotely related to him had ANYTHING to do with Firefly's cancellation? No.
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I just knew this thread was gonna go this way.
Okay...
Fact: NOBODY in the Bush administration EVER saw Firefly, they are too busy watching West Wing for slips of classified info and Dukes Of Hazzard reruns for enjoyment (oh, and attending to the war-thing also).
Fact: Conspiracy=business=government.
Fact: Doesn't matter what makes money, truth or lies; only really good thing about capitalism- if the truth looks like it'll make money, it gets a green light (not that it happens often, but they didn't make Ellen Brockovitch(sp?) or JFK in Russia, did they?)
Fact: Mind control is being tested as we speak...er, type (case in point: LynchAJ
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Fact: Proof regarding a conspiracy theory would render it no longer in the catagory of a THEORY, now wouldn't it???
Fact: I'm late for work now....
Dashing thru the snow Chrisisall
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Chris, thanks ever so much. We've both been there, amigo, and I doubt either of us has time or interest to go back and educate a few assholes who can't read what's presented right in front of their faces. I refuse to respond to these clowns who always think they're right, yet don't have the courtesy nor the interest to go look in FFF.net forums to see where you and I and Citizen and Signym and the Cavalier and a few others have overlinked to the truth behind our statements.
Nice to see Truthishere is in the right camp, one more who at least has a clue what's going on in the world.
Again, Chris, thanks and best wishes to you and yours.
........Ruxton
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It's funny how many different levels of denial there are.
* Bush is great; there are no conspiracies.
* Bush is a jerk; there are no conspiracies.
* Bush is evil; most conspiracy theories are just movie-material, they don't exist in real life that way.
When shields are up and comfort levels must remain high, there's no seeing any new truths. Being possibly wrong about anything, anytime, is a human condition that most of us deny most of the time. The need to be right precludes most investigation into alteration of set beliefs.
There was even a conspiracy against Christ once....
Merry hollidays, Rux.
Carmine, what sets off the metal detectors first...Chrisisall
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