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So What's next? Has anybody heard from Joss?

POSTED BY: Hops
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Monday, November 7, 2005 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by RocketJock:

Folks, Trek fans survived for ten years on hope and fanzines before they got their movie. And it wasn't any big hit at first, either, nor a critical favorite. But the fan base was strong and loyal, and that impressed the studio enough to make them risk another shot.





Absolutely! And they did it without the internet, making fanzines with ancient technology called "ditto machines."

While Firefly is a wonderful and witty reaction to the "old school" Trek, it also stands on the shoulders of Trek. Same as it ever was.

And Trek is *the* model of the misunderstood, mishandled, visionary (for its time) show that the fans would not let die.

It's *our* job to make sure that it doesn't take twenty years, however, for our comeback. Let's get *Firefly* back - not "The Gext Generation," with Mal in his sixties . . .

A joke I *don't* want to hear about our show - Q: "What does the fashionable Browncoat wear?"
A: "Depends."



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Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:14 PM

I'd go for an animated series if it was produced with the same quality of writing. Animation is a valid and expressive medium. But I'd want it to be on the sci-fi channel and not some Saturday morning made for kids deal.

On another note, thanks for keeping the thread going. I'd been away for a while and was pleasantly surprised to see all the great new posts. -Hop

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Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:35 PM

I'm one of those nay-sayers Hop. I've been saying since the 2nd week the movie was out that the whole "franchise" was over. The movie wrapped up all the loose ends in the plot, and the box office dollars didn't outperform the production budget. 40 million dollars, 50 mil total after marketing is factored in. Whedon could have done it for 1/2 that price if he took the production out of hollywood, but he stayed put. Loyalty. And job-security.

Ahh we still have DVD sales, but at this point, it'll barely break even and garner so small a profit that a return is hopeless.

Well, maybe in 20 years it'll come back. It'll be like a Glen Larson TV show. Dead before it's time, but a small fanatical following who never forget. Joss is off making movies and the cast are taking roles in other shows. 2 of the main characters are dead.

The story is done. Nobody hates that more than me, but it's the truth. I keep seeing others reading his letter above and drawing hope from it. I just don't read it the same. Guess everyone can read what they want to read into anything.

Ya ya everyone I know. I'm a troll, bla bla bla.

XG

think I'll go munch on some lettuce.


No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.

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CBY
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 6:12 PM

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Originally posted by XeroGravity:

Ahh we still have DVD sales, but at this point, it'll barely break even and garner so small a profit that a return is hopeless.



I see your point and I have absolutely no problem with guys that say "no" if they explain it in a civilised manner. Personally I think that there are indeed some lines in the BDM that indicate some kind of finality.

But frankly, how can you truthfully say the DVD sales won't have an effect if they are not even officialy on sale yet? No offence, but this seems to be a long shot at this juncture (unless you are a mentalist and saw it in your crystal ball or something like that).

In fact, I guess we all would be happy for ANY official hint in ANY direction.

..and even if the BDM should really be the end, we won't leave without a bang. That's for certain.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2005 6:52 PM

Did anybody listen to the DVD talk radio interview on another thread? Joss said that the movie provided some "closure". Not a great sign in my book. Just keep it going guys. Know anybody that likes sci-fi or westerns... tune em' in and eventually we may have our Trek like resurrection.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2005 7:36 PM

I think we are in the middle and there is no way to tell one way or another. Yes, there may never be a sequel, but it is to soon to tell. Serenity did not do horribly in theaters. Through rentals and dvd sales new people will discover it. Firefly is selling well and it cost up to twice as much as Serenity will when it is released.

Joss has said several times that dvd sales will determine the fate of Serenity.I think we should be hopeful.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2005 7:50 PM

READ MY LIPS! IT AIN'T OVER!!!

We may be in for a bit of a wait too.. as River6213 said before, all hail the hearty browncoats who held the valley while the rest of us straggled in.. more are straggling in every day! We can do this people!

The movie has already done VERY WELL in a bad Box Office year, and the DVD sales will be more icing on the cake!

Joss and company will be back... it may be a few years, but they will be back. I am certain and you should be too!

Joss said in Burbank that HE has not given up and whatever the future holds... if it is not by TV or film he will write us a book... he has faith in us, we must keep our faith in him!

Look at all the BDH who also spent their weekend with us in Burbank. They took their personal time to come and be with us.. they are as devoted to this special 'verse as we are! Doesn't the fact that they went to London and came to Burbank show their commitment?

I think Nathan and the others are on the verge of superstardom... I think they will have demands on their time that will try to pull them from the 'verse... but I also think when the time comes to return to the ship- they will all be there.

Turn away from those hill-living nay sayers...lol.. they get all bibley and twisted...

Firefly/Serenity will be back.... we just hope our wait isn't too long. In the meantime, we will have the dvds to tide us over.. and we have each other! What a truly great bunch we are!

And in the meantime...what better way to show our commitment than to write to Joss, and the rest of the cast and crew and to tell them that we support them and look forward to seeing them again onscreen?



Chindi... standing firm with her capn and crew out here in the black...

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Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:24 PM

Nice hopeful message CHINDI. I tried writing to Joss and had my letter returned. Anybody know where to find a correct address?

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CBY
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:33 PM

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Originally posted by Chindi:
Turn away from those hill-living nay sayers...lol.. they get all bibley and twisted...



Please don't get me wrong, but I don't think this attitude helps a lot if you want to have an open minded debate.

Let's just keep ourselves shiny and respectful towards "them". Convincing is better than ignoring.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:56 PM

Also, don't forget XeroGravity never has anything nice to say, so don't take it to heart...

I've got plans to hold the line. Get me an apple and pass the ammunition....

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