Serenity still has a chance to break even at the Box Office

POSTED BY: GatorMarc
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FOLLOWMAL

Sunday, December 11, 2005 11:25 PM

Hear hear, StaketheLurk, I agree with you!

Universal may have fumbled the job promoting the BDM, but that doesn't mean we have to fumble what WE can do and that is BUY DVDS!!!

I for one am too happy to share the "Firefly/Serenity" love with the folks I love and I'm gonna keep on believing that- like the folks that started this thing if we do our best it will work out.

I listened to the latest Joss interview posted after downloading it last night and he says that the DVD sales are the key to the future of this 'verse. At this point, "Joss is boss." and I'm gonna do my share.

"Is it Christmas?" Mal

KYLENBLADE

Monday, December 12, 2005 12:06 AM

I've, likewise, been doing everything I can to hook as many people as I can on FF. Got a few people going out and buying the series soon and just dying to go out and buy Serenity when it comes out. This series is sooooo infectuous (sp?). Show people one episode and BOOM they're hooked... it's like video crack!

Hey! You're back! And there's your front too!

BADGERGIRL

Monday, December 12, 2005 12:51 AM

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The only thing (in my view) that will work is conversions. The more people we convert, the more boxsets sell. The more boxsets sell, the more Serenity DVDs will sell. So the message is the same (ignored) message from before the opening of the BDM: convert!

Hallelujah, for I haven't heard that since the BDM came out! I've been converting since I learned of Firefly two years ago, and I've been converting ever since the BDM was released. Just last weekend I converted five more people. I have friends who are going to buy Serenity on DVD next week because it didn't come to any theatres near us; a lot of them haven't even seen Firefly much, or at all.

Converting is KEY. People keep forgetting this; the huge fanbase is part of what makes us mighty. If it keeps getting bigger, they know that they have to keep serving the fans.

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"Is there someone you are good at talking to?"

INIRE

Monday, December 12, 2005 3:17 AM

Byrd101 wrote:

Sunday, December 11, 2005 16:03

What a bunch of....
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Byrd101 SERIOUSLY needs to get out more. Perhaps even laid.

I'm not volunteering, i'm just sayin'.

NELLIE

Monday, December 12, 2005 7:51 AM

I see you are still avoiding the issue of pathetically low cinema numbers compared to other films, StaketheLurk. Everyone seems to be avoiding this issue.

No one is criticizing the Universal studio executives---only their promoters, which is a different thing completely. And YES, it DOES do good to criticize the promoters, because maybe some of them are pulling the wool over the eyes of the executives. Top executives don't have time to attend to every detail of every department.

It is entirely in the interest of Fox that Serenity fails like they said it would, so what's to stop them from quietly putting some of their own people onto Universal's advertising team, just for a laugh? Haven't we all seen that sort of thing in movies?

Quoting Joss twice to get everyone on your side is an old trick. You don't speak for Joss---none of us speak for him. Only Joss speaks for himself.

I don't pretend to know what is going on. I only know that it's important to keep asking questions, so that our enthusiasm doesn't get manipulated by professionals, who can come onto this site posing as fans anytime.

It's important to open our eyes and not just follow blindly.

So, GatorMarc, how about that marvellous Box Office list of yours again, including cinema numbers this time? Comparing it to the figures for Fox's "In Her Shoes" would be nice, too...

NELLIE

Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:56 AM

GatorMarc, where did you get your Box Office figures for all those countries?

Many of them aren't available on Box Office Mojo, so where did you get them, if you don't mind my asking?

IAMLOSTINSPACE

Tuesday, December 13, 2005 11:29 AM

I don't know if you are being a little over-protective Nellie, don't come down on anyone for saying that the film might do well. I loved the show too, just having bought and watched the series this weekend.
The problem I see with Serenity in Australia is that it wasn't marketed AT ALL! The only reason I knew about it is because of chat on another sci-fi chatroom that I belong to.My first reaction was to investigate a little and then go and see the movie. Unfortunately, the movie never screened in my local cinema or any of the others that I went to (I happened to travel from Newcastle to Townsville that month and I looked). It only showed in the major cinemas in the major cities.
I was really disappointed with not being able to see it (and still haven't) but it was probably that fact that made me buy the dvd boxed set of the series (something I rarely do, and NEVER without having already seen a show) so that I could check out what all the fuss was about.
I loved it. Can't wait to see the film on the little screen (only option I have)and hope to hell that they manage to make another series.

Just another thought, I can't tell the last time I think a FOX exectutive made the right decision with TV, so don't think they're out to get you, they're just out to get the lowest common denominator's ratings.... and if you think I'm biased, remember, FOX is owned by an Australian.

By the way, the television series has, to my knowledge, never aired in Australia and only came out on dvd after the film screened.

Boomshanka,
Bill

NELLIE

Tuesday, December 13, 2005 1:21 PM

iamlostinspacebill,

Well, you really surprised me in two ways:

First, I never knew Fox was owned by an Australian.

And second, you made me look at everything in a whole new way. Here I am getting all upset about the promoters trying to kill the film, nipping it in the bud and making sure that as few people see it as possible.

But if even people like you way out in the wilds of Australia heard about it and bought the Firefly set and became a Browncoat (you are now) without ever seeing the film, well that means they CAN'T kill it, no matter how hard they try.

So I guess it doesn't really matter what they do to destroy it, or why they are doing it. You are proof that it will just keep spreading like wildfire, so why should we worry?

Thanks, pal---you really cheered me up!

IAMLOSTINSPACE

Wednesday, December 14, 2005 6:59 AM

Happy to oblige, Nellie,
By the way, Rupert Murdoch is the Australian that owns FOX (a part of his Newscorp company) and while I don't for a second believe that he personally would have even watched the show, he has such a reputation as a "tough dealer" that perhaps the attitude has filtered down his companies. Except that it may have been like Chinese whispers and the attitude got changed on it's way down to "just be a hard bastard and kill anything good". Sometimes it isn't the guy at the top making the bad decisions, it's the jerks in the middle who think that is what the boss would want. I've seen the same thing just about every job I've worked in, not nice but if enough people sign the petitions, maybe the people at the top will see what a bad decision their executives made on their behalf and change it.

Thanks for the really nice reply, by the way.

Boomshanka,
Bill

GATORMARC

Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:23 PM

Updated Figures:

Domestic: $25,374,750
+ Overseas: $12,951,133
= Worldwide: $38,325,883

International Figures:

Australia $2,417,321 (12/11/05)
Austria $154,464 (12/11/05)
Belgium $62,787 (12/11/05)
Denmark $77,996 (12/11/05)
France $530,411 (Final)
Germany $1,116,694 (12/11/05)
Holland $96,415 (12/11/05)
Italy $108,106 (12/11/05)
New Zealand $222,800 (12/11/05)
Norway $37,663 (12/11/05)
Portugal $221,620 (Final)
Russia $1,691,368 (11/20/05)
Spain $991,573 (11/20/05)
Sweden $52,330 (12/11/05)
Switzerland $27,152 (12/11/05)
United Kingdom $4,784,311 (Final)

GatorMarc

Eat 'em up, chomp, chomp.

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