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Jubal lives!

POSTED BY: Spinland
UPDATED: Sunday, December 11, 2005 16:01
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Friday, December 9, 2005 9:10 PM

Some have speculated about another war for independence after the events of the BDM so maybe the Browncoats will hire Early to hunt down River since she can be very useful against the Alliance.

"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam

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Saturday, December 10, 2005 12:39 AM

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I don't think we should assume that the bounty Early was planning to collect was offered by the Alliance.


If I remember right, the bounty on River was 200,000 credits. Now, remember back on the "Jayne's Town" episode where Jayne is talking about the money he tried to steal...he was so sick over losing 60,000 (untraceable) credits. Now, I wouldn't turn down $60,000 in real life, make no mistake about it, but even in today's times that'd only last a person about two or three years tops. Early said he could retire on the 200,000 credits (and he's a reasonably young man), so that was probably (guesstimating) the equivalent of $2,000,000 or perhaps $20,000,000. Who, besides the Alliance, would be willing to put up that kind of money for River, especially since her abilities and/or potential is a mystery for the most part at this point? The only other option I can think of would be the Blue Sun, but aren't they and the Alliance essentially one in the same?

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Following the BDM certainly there are some empty places in the crew needing to be filled.


Oh man...now that would be excellent! Jubel as a regular character on the Serenity? Damn, that's coolness just waiting to happen! For some reason, I'm picturing him trying to "comfort" Zoe in her time of mourning...

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Saturday, December 10, 2005 12:48 AM

From the script:

While he works the controls beneath these readouts, the camera pans over to see a picture stuck to the hull near his head. A picture of River -- the one the Blue hands sported in the Train job. Around it is a warrant showing River with the legend, FUGITIVE, and at the bottom, REWARD 200,000 CREDITS, Alliance Bond Standard. WANTED ALIVE.

It's definitely an Alliance bounty.

"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam

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Saturday, December 10, 2005 12:52 AM

I just finished watching Objects in Space again. The "reward" definitely was an Alliance reward. The hands of blue guys probably would have done the same to Early as they did to the Alliance guys that held Simon and River. If Early survived his walk in space, I think he was too much of a villain and too untrustworthy to make a good fit among the crew of Serenity. In the BDM, the Operative changed his point of view and even helped put Serenity back to gether but Mal said he would shoot him if he saw him again. Early had no change in point of view and is still dangerous.

So many worlds. So little time.

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Saturday, December 10, 2005 10:09 AM

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From the script:

While he works the controls beneath these readouts, the camera pans over to see a picture stuck to the hull near his head. A picture of River -- the one the Blue hands sported in the Train job. Around it is a warrant showing River with the legend, FUGITIVE, and at the bottom, REWARD 200,000 CREDITS, Alliance Bond Standard. WANTED ALIVE.

It's definitely an Alliance bounty.



Thanks for that interesting tidbit!

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If Early survived his walk in space, I think he was too much of a villain and too untrustworthy to make a good fit among the crew of Serenity. In the BDM, the Operative changed his point of view and even helped put Serenity back to gether but Mal said he would shoot him if he saw him again. Early had no change in point of view and is still dangerous.


You're right...it's not a feasible idea, at least not right away. Heck, his pistol-whipping Inara is reason alone to not let him onto the ship as one of the crew (to strike a face as lovely as her's...the man really is nuts!). Still, if the writers could make it happen, pull it off semi-convincingly, and get Jubal on there as a regular, can you imagine some of the situations that would ensue? Jayne is kind of the "odd man out" already. Heck, Early's presence would have Jayne as welcome as Mal to the rest of the crew!

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Saturday, December 10, 2005 2:13 PM

... I hope to god he's alive. Jubal Early was fresh, intelligent, odd, sleek and dangerous.

... He made me recall an interview I saw once, with ... what's his name? Pulp Fiction writer/director...? (I'm drunk at the moment, can't remember).

... Anyway, this man said, bad guys are people, too. They have thoughts and feelings, wants and desires, etc... (he was talking about his Pulp Fiction baddies). They're not just scowling bodies with guns.

... Jubal observed what he saw, thought about it, and commented in a very intelligent, if very odd way . . . very cool for bad guy, in my humble opinion.

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Sunday, December 11, 2005 1:25 PM

well a new fire fly costs 50,000 credits by the roll paly game so i think that 200,000 credits would by you hell of a lot

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Sunday, December 11, 2005 1:36 PM

The FireFly Wiki has some interesting things to say on the value of money in the 'Verse:
http://www.fireflywiki.org/Firefly/FireflyMoney



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Sunday, December 11, 2005 4:01 PM

Thanks for the info y'all.

My Bro picked up the Serenity role-playing book yesterday, and going on what it said, one credit is roughly about $25. So not only was I way the heck off with my guesstimation...but the Alliance is obviously wanting River back VERY BADLY to offer that kind of dough!

So on that note, if Jubel lived, and I sure hope he did, that man is going to be back for River. To be so close to kind of money and have it slip away, he's going to try again...he's bound to.

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