Best. Villain. Ever.
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One of my all time favorite villians was was Gul Dukat from Star Trek Deep Space Nine. This was a guy who didn't just pop in and out for a few episodes but was a presence throughout the entire series. You got to know him as person (or rather as a Cardasian) and no other villian I can think of whent through so many twists and turns. There was a time when he was almost a good guy. And in spite of the bad things he had done in the past he honestly thought of himself as a great man who had done wonderful things for the people he oppressed. Until he cracked up and when insane. You rarely see a show that takes as much care with its villians as it does with its regular characters.
Others villians: Vader, of cource
Palpitine: The worst villians in the world are the not ones who use raw force but the ones who can use and pervert all the institions around the good guys rendering them helpless.
The lawyers at Wolfram and Hart: Same princple.
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Villians are better than heroes when it comes to delivering maniacal laughs or deadly double entendres.
My list:
Vader: Before he got all Neo-Lucas-ized. Just plain, good time lovin', evil.
The Shark: Who ever tells you they saw Jaws then went swimming without fear is a liar.
Iago: No, not the stupid bird from Aladdin! THE Iago; from Othello. Dude causes pain, death and destruction in 4 families with simple words and guilability.
Victor von Doom: From the comics. Not the movie.
The Joker: But only from The Killing Joke. When he crippled Barbara Gordon (Batgirl) then sent Commish Gordon a video of nastiness. Great stuff.
Roy Batty: Blade Runner... if his time didn't run out, what kind of badness could he have done?!?
KHAAAN! www.khaaan.com
And of course, Me.
What I dislike about most of the villains done in movies, TV, comics, books, what have you...
Here we have a villain. The villain is powerful. The villain has an army or a bad ass side kick. The villain is easily defeated by some small simple "David vs Goliath" thing.
The Death Star was damn near unstoppable. Until it was found that by shooting one thing, the whole place blows. What the hell?
Hence, when I get to power, I shall live by this:
http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html
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Jason Voorhees...Can't keep him down....
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Spike...then not Spike...then Spike again, I could never keep up with his villanous
(then lack of villianous
,then you think he is up to something but he isn't 
) ways. He was defenitly the most entertaining villian/non-villian/who really knows? until he got his soul back that kinda sucked...but then even with his soul you still got the sarcastic humor so no harm done. 
If you want a real bad villian then does Lord Voldemort count cause he is pretty bad
(I love the little smiley things~!)
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Only one villaion comes to my mind that really torque's my jaw.
Angelus.
After watching an ep from season 2 I think of Buffy, with him in it just made me nervous and jumpy at everything. Ugh, just thinking about the guy and the way he acts and talks just creeps me out.
This guy is charming and caramastic. No clue that this guy is dangerous until he's got you.He stalks you and messes with you head first and then moves in to torture or kill you or both. He knows how to hurt you in so many different ways and he's gonna enjoy every single one.
Gah! I better stop talking bout him before, I get nervous and jumpy again.
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People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.
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One kind of villain we don't see very often, which I consider to be the best kind, are ones that make the protagonist question his or her own beliefs, an adversary who is able to weaken the protagonist’s resolve and will not just through intimidation, coercion, or superiority of force but through an ideology that is seemingly superior to that of the protagonist’s, even if it is somewhat twisted. Those are generally the most dangerous and hard to beat villains. I've seen plenty of villains that had that potential, the Ori from SG1 for example, but unfortunately they often failed to fulfill that potential.
"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam
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Like the Operative...don't forget him.
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Here are my top choices
Sephiroth: What can I say that hasn’t been said a thousand times before? Just a sublimely complex and integrating character. Also One Winged Angel has got to be the coolest theme tune any villain has ever had.
Kefka: The villain of Final Fantasy VI and for some FF fans (but not me) and even greater bad guy than Seph. Its been said he is somewhat like an Asian interpretation of the Joker and I would tend to agree. Cruel unpredictable and funny, and like Sephiroth after him he wanted to destroy the world to become a God. The difference is Kefka pulled if off.
Dracula: ‘nuff said.
The Evil Queen from Ico: A decaying Queen living in a decaying castle in a decaying world. She kept her daughter in a birdcage from birth and intends to steel her body. She demands the sacrifice of the Boy with horns that is born to the village every generation or their crops will die. She then enslaves their souls and turns them into smoke men.
For the love of God if you haven’t already, play Ico!
And of you have, play it again!
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Who do you suppose is in there?
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"maxgremlin wrote:
Tuesday, November 15, 2005 09:19
One of my all time favorite villians was was Gul Dukat from Star Trek Deep Space Nine."
One of my personal favorites but I never thought of him as a villian.
One of my favorite episodes of all time was the episode with the whole conversation about "The boy who cried wolf".
I think it was Odo talking to Gul (looong time since I saw this...).
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Odo - "The whole point of the story is to never tell a lie."
Gul - "No, I didn't get that at all. What I got is never tell the same lie twice."
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Kind of summed up Guls philosophy in a nutshel. ;)
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The "boy who cried wolf" scene between Bashir and Garak.
Dukat is a type of character you rarely see on tv or in movies. Dukat is someone who chose the lesser of two evils; he was the lesser of two evils. There have been plenty of tv shows/movies/books where a character is met with a tough moral/ethical dilemma something like giving up the location of a group of rebels so that a bunch of civilians can be saved but what we rarely see is what happens afterwards. Making the decision to choose the lesser of two evils is nothing compared to having to live with it, because that is where the true conflict lies. In DS9 we got to see how Dukat lives with that decision, how he deals with it by lying to himself, thinking that just because what he did was "right" that it was not evil. Even though he was pretty calm and collected through most of the show, he had been insane ever since the occupation when he killed all those Bajorans.
"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam
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