What Joss ruined for me....
POSTED BY: gypsylife
UPDATED: Sunday, November 27, 2005 04:54
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I dunno. I'm still a bit of a tv junkie, so I'm not going to turn it off just because there isn't a show with Whedon's name attached to it. Actually, I wouldn't have been able to watch BUFFY or ANGEL when it was initally on because I don't have cable. Just farmer-vision.
I still find wothwile stuff to watch. ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT, MALCOLM IN THE MIDDLE, MY NAME IS EARL and THE OFFICE I find are the only comedies I can stand. I still enjoy THE AMAZING RACE and SURVIVOR. And of course, there's 24, the tv equivalent of smack cocaine.
And despite the lags in between seasons, I still get excited over THE SOPRANOS.
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"YES!!!I'm a man posessed by many demons....Polite demons that would open the door for a lady carrying too many parcels...BUT DEMONS NONETHELESS!!!! Yes. I have walked along the path of evil many times, it's a twisting, curving path that..actually leads to a charming plot garden, BUT BEYOND THAT EVIL!!!"
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I used to watch star trek, but I don't anymore. I think its a preference more than anything, I just think those shows ran out of juice.
I still watch SG1, I have started watching the new series (Fighting a mystical equivalent of the Borg), but I'm from the UK so I've only watched the 4th episode
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A: A superb suggestion with just two major drawbacks. One, we don't have any defensive shields. And two, we don't have any defensive shields. Technically speaking thats only one flaw, but it was such a big one I thought I mention it twice.
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The quality of SG-1 has been deteriorating ever since it went from Showtime to the Sci-Fi channel. The Ori had the potential to be the best villain in Stargate but unfortunately that potential was not fulfilled.
"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam
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Originally posted by Rushlock:
I hope Farscape isn't a bad word around here :)
It's what got me to watch sci-fi, and to give Firefly/Serenity a chance.
I'm the other way around. I got into Farscape long after I watched Firefly. It's another wonderful show. Some dud episodes but overall really good. But a tip to anyone starting: (1)Watch them in order, and (2)give the muppets a chance. I started buying the new Starburst DVDs which are an affordable way to collect the episodes.
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Originally posted by Thundar:
Joe Straczynski ruined lesser Sci-Fi for me. Joss just reinforced that feeling.
Amen. Babylon 5 soured my take on the later Treks -- although at the time it was a real pleasure watching the competition from B5 force the Deep Space Nine writers to exceed themselves with some truly powerful story arcs. Picture that; B5 was so good it forced the Trek franchise to follow its lead. Unprecedented. Even Joss hasn't achieved that, Enterprise having failed fully on its own, more's the pity.
A'course, JMS was blessed in having five full seasons to tell his story with. Had to fight like a ferret for each one, too, but at least PTEN/Warner was willing to committ to a full season at a time, and didn't mess overmuch with the episode order.
"I can only assume that I'm paying off karma at a vastly accelerated rate." -- Susan Ivonova
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yeah I can hardly watch the star wars prequels anymore.
As far as scifi goes now though, we're not doing too bad. sg1, sg:a, and especially BSG are all certainly worth watching, and well above the caliber of typical network sci fi.
I'm going to the special hell...
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Originally posted by thrawn86:
yeah I can hardly watch the star wars prequels anymore.
As far as scifi goes now though, we're not doing too bad. sg1, sg:a, and especially BSG are all certainly worth watching, and well above the caliber of typical network sci fi.
I'm going to the special hell...
I totally agree, Star Trek was going downhill, what they needed was innovation which was evidently lacking. Joss has something i haven't seen for a very long time if at all. Trek was too formulaic and repetitive, thank god it is dead and buried.
As far as SG-1 goes i was never really a huge fan but i have been watching some recent episodes and they are very good, they featured a lot humour (not as good as firefly though). And as far as BSG goes, the true successor to FF, and i just can't wait for Season 2.
"God has a plan for you, Gaius."
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Originally posted by lasher99:Quote:
Originally posted by Rushlock:
I hope Farscape isn't a bad word around here :)
It's what got me to watch sci-fi, and to give Firefly/Serenity a chance.
I'm the other way around. I got into Farscape long after I watched Firefly. It's another wonderful show. Some dud episodes but overall really good. But a tip to anyone starting: (1)Watch them in order, and (2)give the muppets a chance. I started buying the new Starburst DVDs which are an affordable way to collect the episodes.
Duds?
Just kidding, but I would like some examples. Not going to defend them, but I agree there were some better than others
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Hmm nothing Joss did in scifi ruined anything for me. I never got into his whole supernatural thing (which was his great claim to fame). Watched Buffy thru to the end of Season 3 recently (and after the fact), but once I hit that whole Incan Mummy Girl ep, it was just all downhill (in spite of the whole "Spike" thing).
Guess you just had to be there at the time to appreciate it.
But, he came out with FF and irrevocably won me over (even if he's not as committed to his enterprise as I am, regrettably).
Giantvilhead.. I'm shocked to hear you label any part of Trek as sexist or prejudiced. I know you're a creative guy, but you're definately a little brainshy in the history department. If any one show is the opposite of those labels, Trek is it.
But then I look at the posts following yours and I am reminded that groundbreaking geniuses are frequently smashed underfoot by the copycats who ride their coattails (at least in reputation). Straczynski versus Roddenberry?
Rushlock... John Crichton is the first modernday Buck Rogers to ever get sucked thru a wormhole. And Aeryn Sun in black leather is Maid Marion in Frederick's of Hollywood lingerie. Farscape is eternally cool and any contradiction is the height of nerd blasphemy.
Sadly, the show got the axe and the 2 main stars (Ben Browder and Claudia Black, best scifi lovestory duo ever!) got themselves merged into SG1 ~ into an SG1 that jumped the shark at the end of season 8. That was the idea behind the orchestrated hatchet-job on Farscape to begin with. Merge the 2 fanbases, and kill off the renegade Brian Henson company. He might pull a Jim Henson on us and produce a "Dark Crystal". We can kill off Farscape and try to revive a show that died with the end of season 8.
Season 10 here we come. I'd have LOVED to see Browder and Black (and Michael Shanks and Christopher Judge) be the new lead team in SG-Atlantis. That would have been the coolest damn stroke of genius the greedy moneyhungry SciFi chan could ever have pulled off. But alas, we have a show overdue for retirement, and a spinoff that smells like failure floating together in the same universe.
Stupid is as stupid does.
XG
No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.
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