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What do you think ever happened to the Military leaders of the Independents?

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Thursday, November 17, 2005 1:44 AM

Discovering a former Independent leader who had sold out to the Alliance at the end of the war, and was now doing some really nasty things would be a great plot for a future episode, would it not?

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Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:46 AM

Like I said Joss seems to love going against type, bad girl Slayers, Watchers gone bad, good guy vampires. It really depends on how hard he wants to put the screws on Mal. Did the people he was fighting for sell the Browncoats out when they got the chance --- that would be torture for Mal, but you could do worse, what if the entire rebelion was a sham, a way for certain commercial or political interests to gain concessions from the Alliance?

Blue Sun makes foodstuffs right? What if they fermented the Independent movement knowing that in a war their Rim world commetitors would be eliminated? Or what if they were from the Independent planets, and the Alliance cut them a deal to cut off supplies to the Browncoats....

So many possibilities.

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Friday, November 25, 2005 4:49 AM

I had a quick bit about the Medal of Valor. The Battle of Serenity Valley lasted several weeks. In the first five days, Mal performed so well as to earn (at least de facto) leadership of a large body of troops. There's no reason that the medal could not have been awarded during the fighting. Historical note; the last time Hitler was seen in public was an award ceremony during which he presented (knight’s or iron) crosses to defenders of Berlin. The city being doomed, this largely propaganda-ish gesture might be similar to command’s actions. It’d make sense I think…

As to Independent organization; there are at least the necessary components to direct actions such as air support, evacuation and large-scale troop movements.

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Friday, November 25, 2005 4:57 AM

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Originally posted by Browncoater:
Discovering a former Independent leader who had sold out to the Alliance at the end of the war, and was now doing some really nasty things would be a great plot for a future episode, would it not?


Discovering a former Independent leader who sold out to the Alliance because it was the lesser of two evils would make an even better plot. For example, if the Alliance knew that there were Browncoat collaborators in a town but didn’t know who they were so they planned to just bomb the entire town into a smoldering crater. The Independent officer knew of this and sold out his men so that the Alliance won’t bomb the town and kill thousands of innocent civilians. The choice to sell out his men was actually the easy part, living with the blood of his men on his hand for the rest of his life would be the true conflict.

"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam

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Friday, November 25, 2005 7:33 AM

From the series we know that Mal is not a criminal because he fought for the Independence. When questioned by alliance officer in Safe we don’t see extreme hatred by either Mal or the Officer. Both seem to avoid confronting each other on this issue, they agree to disagree. From this we can deduce that all those who fought for Independence were exonerated for being on the loosing side. No Browncoat roundups. Also identifying all those who fought in a rebellion/revolution would be next to impossible.
We can also be fairly safe and assume there weren’t any “death camps” or large military prison camps since Mal would have mentioned those injustices when complaining about the war. The end of the war would probably play out like many of our current conflicts, where only the most grievous offenders of war crimes would be tried and imprisoned. Most Officers would likely continue to hold the same or similar possessions in society, with big brother just watching over their shoulders. The rest of the Browncoats would just go back to what they did, or find new lines of work. The Alliance wouldn’t have the resources to replace all that fought against it, and who would want to give up a cushy life to live on a border world. Prejudices still continue as they always do. Fights will still break out. But all in all, life will just keep going.

Makes you wonder how many actually took part in the fighting.

:blast

Like I can see Niska being an Interrogator during the war. One who used his knowledge gleaned from the war to carve out his own little empire. It would also explain why he acts like a new mob boss that is out show what he is capable of. Unlike a established Tong or Mob family that had been doing business for decades.


Things that make you go hmmmm….


Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal FOX.

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Friday, November 25, 2005 8:25 AM

Well, we do know from Trash that the Alliance used bioweapons. I don't know about the Firefly 'verse but the 1972 Biological Convention, a multilateral disarmament treaty signed by 169 nations, banned the production and storage of biological weapons, although for some reason it doesn't prevent its use. Unfortunately the treaty was suspended in 2001 by the Bush administration.

"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam

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