Firefly Episode Discussions

Big Damn Inara Theory

POSTED BY: raptored
UPDATED: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 23:35
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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 2:18 AM

Like Captain said, you should read the other thread about what Tim Minear let slip. That's a far more wicked explination than anything anyone here has come up with, which would be fitting. It's why Joss is Joss. It's just so twisted that it would have to be him, and that's the "theory" I'm sticking with. Why would Tim lie about something like that? No reason.

"I don't wanna explode."

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 4:09 AM

Quote:

Well isn't that special...



reference to:
CAPTAIN, posted Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 12:07

Tim revealed that there would be an episode where Inara is kidnapped by Reavers and uses some sort of bio-weapon to kill anyone who has sex with her, and in doing so, kills all the Reavers who rape her.


I don't like this. We are collectivly reaching for straws.

A flag went up when I imagined an episode involving intercourse as a weapon. Nice idea. How are you gonna film that? Can that episode evade censurship? I see so many problems with that storyline as an episode, I have to stop and start laughing. Think about it.

Point of fact: Morena Baccarin, when asked how she prepared for the role of a companion answered: Sex. I had a lot of sex.

Now I have to assume that people working on these projects have a wicked sense of humor in order to work with that crazy cast they have.

Permayhaps, this was a joke on Tim's part.

On the other hand, DON'T STOP THINKING. We don't know what was in that vial, but we might eventually. So keep up the theories. All this fun is retribution to all the fun FOX stole from us. It's people talking, it's gossip, ...

...but noone ends up hanging upside down...

Gedeon

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 4:29 AM

Hey man,

I really didn't mean to bite your head off or anything. I thought it was an odd storyline, hard to produce as an episode. The apparent reference was to an episode with that contexte and, yeah, I'm a rebel and I had to say no.

New theory:

I don't accept the idea of time travel in the Firefly series. But what if...

A stimulant that heightens your senses, your metabolisme, and gives you the impression of slowing time so you move twice as fast as anyone... This is not new. Hellboy has this for Croenen. But this would be chemical, not magical
Gedeon

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 4:42 AM

I kind of wrote you off for a few minutes, but it would appear that you have been rewritten...

You're right, they would go farther than before to suggest this, but it could be done.

Just look at River "feeling" the ship in Objects. That was a hard concept to portray but I think they pulled that off with flying colors.

thanks for pushing a limit I hadn't expected to push...

Gedeon

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 5:35 PM

I think things like time travel are too exotic for Firefly and faster-than-light is also right out as I read somewheres that they didn't want to over complicate things with those damn chrystals or other such nonsense that would pull attention from the charactors or story. One self admitted thing about Joss is that he is no hard-core SF guy. An example of this came from the BDM when we found out that all those various worlds are in one system. I'm no astrophysicist, but the exsistance of such a system seems way too unrealistic. But it isn't my story.

I think that the idea of a death simulator has merit because of 'the Message' episode and because of the reaction of the reavers reaction when Mal shot that guy at the begining of the BDM. One reason to cause her contemplation when she removed the vial may be the fact that she may not have had enough for the entire crew or for that matter, have enough for more than herself. Inara has been portrayed as a very caring selfless person, and the thought of doing something so selfish, well, 'nough said.

As to why she she left the temple, I think it was a combination of a Kirk moment (AKA I'm captain of Enterprize and it just dosen't get any better than this; of course transpose it for Inara's point of view), and, she was bored! She's no paper flower and I see her having a similar background as Simon. If any of you has read 'Finding Serenity', a companion was a compilation of more than just Geisha, and both her attitude and bearing are anything but that of a slave. More like a preistess. My personal take is while she was at the companion temple, she may have realized that there was more to life than what was on the grounds so she exercised a prerogative and left. She may in fact go back one day and become head of her temple but that is not now. She may also realize that being head of her order is more than she is currently ready for.

The reason that she is in better condition than her friend Nandi may simply be the fact that Inara, as a licensed companion in good standing, has the ability and where-with-all to be able to access and afford coreworld medical facilities, while Nandi doesn't. And the concept of anagathic (anti-ageing) drugs are possible because we are currently able to understand why a body ages, but have yet to understand the triggers, or more importantly, how to circumvent them. That's the CURRENT state of genetics! who knows what they might be like in five hundred years! Of course the fact that Melinda Clark is ten years older than Morena Baccarin may count for something too, and the fact that appearance-wise they're about as exotic looking as each other may have affected the casting. Well this is just my buck (two cents adjusted for inflation)



(in a very panicked voice, both hands white knuckled on the control column) "It's O.K., I'm a leaf on the Wind...'

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Sunday, November 27, 2005 2:01 AM

Time travel? You should be slapped just for even thinking that up.

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Wednesday, November 30, 2005 1:44 AM

*Movie Spoiler Below. Read at your own risk*

I think the vile held a liquid explosive, perhaps a safer form of Nitro (NitroPlus for the sake of this discussion). Think back to the BDM, and the exploding incense trick. If I remember correctly, Inara lit that up before she realized Mal was there; I think she was about to make an exit on her own. Wouldn't it be convenient if you could make things explode by giving them a light coating of NitroPlus? Just dip incense stick and BOOM.

How would a vile of NitroPlus be "much worse" then a suicide kit when being borded by Reavers? A big enough explosion (and I will assume that for the sake of argument that a whole vile of the stuff applied in the right way would cause a much bigger bang then a stick of incense) could potentially breach the hull, causing Serenity to decompress, and killing not just the Reavers, but the entire crew.

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Wednesday, November 30, 2005 2:03 AM

I think the time-travle theory is debunked, but what if it was some sort of very communicable disease or something that would kill Inara and the Reavers, but save the crew? It seems farfetched because, well, how would the crew *not* get sick, too...but maybe it's workable.
Honestly, though I'll be happy with the answer from Joss's/Tim's brains rather than my own speculation; I just hope we actually *get* an answer...
otherwise the words "What was in that vial?" are going on my tombstone.

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Wednesday, November 30, 2005 2:28 AM

I have a slightly less reasonable explanation than actual time-travel, and a more interesting one, though it may not be a very Whedon-esque in its theory, it certainly is an interesting position.

Suppose that the drug does not really take a person through some big quantum mirror or rift or temporal displacement, but rather through their own life. Rather than physically moving through space and time, the drug can move a person through their lifetime experiences. Inara could have used it to travel into her own future for a single instance, and see whether she survived the attack.

This sort of thing was used classic sci-fi style in "Slaughterhouse-Five" (Kurt Vonnegut). In the book, the main character is caught in a time warp, and can only visit events that have happened or will happen in his life. Except...He has no control over when he travels, or 'when' he goes in his life. This, however does not offer much room at all for free will.

It might be possible that the drug can be used to induce 'trips' through one's life, if only for an instance, with no memory of the past or future events.

Though the idea is extremely anti-individualist, it offers a great deal of potential to explain what Inara does. Her strange behavior sometimes, the reasons that she lef the Academy, the way she "doesn't age" when she meets her friend, it can all be explained by her being able to change what part of her life she is in at will.

Just some incoherent ramblings, but they might mean something.

"That's why I never kiss them on the mouth."
"When do I get to get sexed up?!"
"This is my most favorite-est gun..."

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Wednesday, November 30, 2005 11:52 AM

the sexual weapon theory is ridiculous re: the reavers. reavers have been done to death and I imagine that post final battle in Serenity there are few left in the verse. The next villains will be something new, and of course the two by twos with hands of blue.

Nandy says "how do you do it" with a certain knowing and probing look, ther is something to that non-aging theory...

A big Q. is to the nature of the guild. They are massivly powerful, an institution with spiritual leanings... it could be similar to the Bene Gesserit, with massive tentacles into all power structures..

why did Nandy leave? she left to live poor and dusty on a little moon serving barely educated men...

The guild educates and cultivates companions to such a level of sophistication they could theoretically work in many other areas .ie politics, but the guild seems bent on owning the women, developing their personal power only within the constraints of the guild. why is there no way out of it's clutches except to inhabit an outer moon?

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