How do Reavers pilot ships, them being insane cannibals and such?
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I agree with that. People continue to have trips years after LSD has left their system.
The PAX could have literally changed their brain chemistry and then broken down like it did on Miranda.
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I see what you are trying to say. Once a behavior takes root it's awfully hard to change and in time may become the accepted behavior. Sometimes even just suggestions can do this and it doesn't take drugs.
Look at kids-the pressure is to conform the what ever kids decide the norm is and those that don't comply are ostrcized mercilously. To buck the peer pressure or be different can cause extreme emotional pain and in same cases they risk actual physical harm.
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Reavers = (Grim) Reapers = Reaper Madness. Just like psychopathic serial killers Bush and Cheney rape, cannibalize and mass murder, and hunt naked women with REAL loaded guns ("The Most Dangerous Game" of life-or-death is also used on US Special Forces), and are convicted of drunk/drugged driving/flying, so they are promoted to the White House and worshipped as gods. As governor of Texas, the only convicted killer who got a commuted death sentence from Satanic Bohemian Grover Nazi Skull & Boner narco cult member George Bush Jr was cannibal hitman Henry Lee Lucas, whose partner Otis Toole cut the head off Adam Walsh, son of "America's Most Wanted" John Walsh. While Bush and Cheney are too drunk and doped up on coke and heroin to be able to drive or fly, they do help manage their mind-kontrolled slave army as handlers using code words and hand signs, and enthusiastically torture/rape/murder 100,000s of innocent people in Iraq (including CIA's torture/rape/porn/genocide prisons), including "friendly fire frag" murders of 50,000 of US troops and 400,000 disabled US troops with DU nuke radiation and sabotaged vaccines, and hire enemy troops to kill US troops per Operation Northwoods, PNAC and P2OG. Multiple personality disorder/dissociative identity disorder (MPD/DID misdiagnosed as socipaths) is created by governments and mafias by torturing/electrocuting/doping/mutilating/raping/murdering/canibalizing babies in multigenerational incest families, and if they are allowed to survive they are trained as professional killers, military special forces, military pilots, "lone nuts", "lone nut gangs" like Columbine, "stalkers" like Bush family's CIA friend John Hinkley Jr who "shot" Reagan, drug runners, prostitutes, porn stars and spies, and presidents, kings and queens. This torure enhances certain physical capabilities, like 45-times better visual acuity, photographic/audio memory, and ability to kill by remote control without warning and without questioning orders and with total amnesiac immunity to torture confessions. MPD/DID slaves are forcefed coke/heroin/speed/acid to pump them up to kill for psycho Big Brother. All US Air Force pilots and US combat soldiers in Iraq are required to be forcefed speed (Go Pills reuslt in psychosis and Friendly Fire mass homicides) and sedatives (Stop Pills) and even Date Rape drugs to force amnesia of their serial killings of innocent civilians and babies. US troops carry APAC kits of cocaine/heroin so they can still fight when wounded without pain, fear or weakness. This CIA/Nazi mind kontrol program to manufacture Manchurian Candidates for Uncle Scam is named MK-ULTRA and Project Monarch, and confessed in congressional hearings and autobiographies, like Cathy O'Brien's "TRANCE Formation of America". This is River Tam's character background, which could be developed in Firefly per US gov't specification, as confessed by Fritz Springmeier and Cisco Wheeler in "The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave". It is possible to deprogram/cure MPD/DID by bypassing head shrinkers who are barred under National Security laws from curing MPD/DID, as Cathy O'Brien and Cisco Wheeler proved. The biggest lack of suspension of disbelief arises from all Hollywood writers ignoring basic nuclear physics of solar/cosmic nuke radiation that makes human space travel impossible in or outside of planetary force fields (Van Allen Radiation Belts), due to killer gamma rays, x-rays and 6-million-mph nuke particles. No normal human nor cannibal can survive nuke radiation, without 5-feet of lead sheilding, thus no windows allowed. Writers ignoring inertial effects of motion also destroys the suspension of disbelief. NASA astronots, fighter pilots, race car drivers must strap themselves into their seats when in maneuverable motion, and same should apply to all Hollywood space epics. Watch the space shuttle astronauts bouncing from pogo during launch. Not to mention weightlessness as mandatory when coasting/orbiting in space. Doh! 
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Originally posted by ncbrowncoat:
I see what you are trying to say. Once a behavior takes root it's awfully hard to change and in time may become the accepted behavior. Sometimes even just suggestions can do this and it doesn't take drugs.
Look at kids-the pressure is to conform the what ever kids decide the norm is and those that don't comply are ostrcized mercilously. To buck the peer pressure or be different can cause extreme emotional pain and in same cases they risk actual physical harm.
If it is a psycho-pharmaceutical effect, then I think its less to do with habits or social pressure, and more to do with, as mentioned before, secondary effects. For example- children given a particular drug for ADD (I wont mention by name for legal reasons + which is most commonly administered in the US) show trends of abnormal behaviour later in life. This may be a classic case of correlation is not cause, for all we know Americans just have a higher rate of becoming psychos (joke!). In all honesty we don’t know enough about brain chemistry to be able to be sure, but there are many journal papers about substances permanently altering the way the brains work, on fundamental chemical levels.
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I think the general theme is that just because you are horrifically violent and crazy it doesn't mean you are retarded although there could be some retarded Reavers out there. I'd also think that 25th century technology could play some part like maybe a really good "autopilot-cruise control" with an advanced version of a Garmin GPS navigation system. Just touch the ship or "food" you want to go to and the ship just goes there!
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Originally posted by DonCoat:
I think of the Reavers as being 18th-century pirates on acid.
Better example would be vikings...
That has a nice ring to it, "Vikings in space"
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Originally posted by DaisyCutter:Quote:
Originally posted by DonCoat:
I think of the Reavers as being 18th-century pirates on acid.
Better example would be vikings...
That has a nice ring to it, "Vikings in space"
I think that puts a spin on it that none of us want.
If Reavers are like Vikings they should have literature, religion, social institutions, and such. I don't care how nice of a ring "Vikings in space" has; I can not picture (in any serious manner) a great Reaver poet.
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Originally posted by PurpleYin:
If it is a psycho-pharmaceutical effect, then I think its less to do with habits or social pressure, and more to do with, as mentioned before, secondary effects.
That's a hard thing to address, for a variety of reasons, one of them being that behavior effects the brain as well as drugs.
You mentioned ADD, and one of the causes of that is a great example. There is strong evidence linking watching television with quick cuts (like MTV) during developmental years to ADD. You can take children without ADD and, by behavior alone, alter their brain chemistry so that they will have ADD for the rest of their lives.
If a drug coincides with a behavior how do you tell which caused the change?
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On the other hand I personally don’t think it is brain chemistry at all with the Reavers. I think that the PAX had a temporary effect on the Reavers, and in that time (the same amount of time it took everyone else to waste away) they created a barbaric self-perpetuating culture.
When the PAX wore off, as I believe it did, there might have been some who we disgusted with themselves. There might have been some who said, “Why can’t we all just get along,” but after they were dealt with (in some disturbingly Reaver fashion) do you think any others would dare to even think that?
If they don’t think it they won’t do it.
On the other hand there might not have been any. After you have done what they have done is there any way to go back? Could a human psyche even survive internalizing our morality after they did those things?
And whether or not it could, would they even consider picking up our morality? The only time they interact with someone who has those moral standards is at dinner time. Everyone they ever knew (in a non-food manner) who had those morals and did not reject them wasted away and died on Miranda.
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In my mind Reavers follow normal human nature. Once people get pushed to a certain place it is hard to leave. Whether it was the PAX that pushed them or the blackness at the edge of space doesn’t matter because however they got there it is the act of being human that keeps them there.
People will do things out of habit, out of fear, out of peer pressure, and just because they have forgotten that another way to do things exists.
Obviously a Reaver is in the habit of being a Reaver, and her peers can do far worse than kill her if she disagrees with what they are doing. Further she knows only knows of two ways to exist post-Miranda: the way Reavers live, and the way their food lives. Most people are afraid to be food, a Reaver would be even more afraid because she knows exactly what Reavers do to their food before they dine.
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Quote:Oh, like you've never heard of inertial dampers or artificial gravity before.
Originally posted by piratenews:
Writers ignoring inertial effects of motion also destroys the suspension of disbelief. NASA astronots, fighter pilots, race car drivers must strap themselves into their seats when in maneuverable motion, and same should apply to all Hollywood space epics. Watch the space shuttle astronauts bouncing from pogo during launch. Not to mention weightlessness as mandatory when coasting/orbiting in space. Doh!
Plus, what's with the Bush-bashing?
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