Serenity on Slashdot

POSTED BY: cljohnston108
UPDATED: Monday, November 28, 2005 22:24
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ENTRAYL

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 6:22 AM

Uh, guys, can I just clarify that I was quoteing the guy coz I thought he was a moron for thinking that a movie is retarded just based of its ion clouds?

kthxbye.

AINTNOSHEPHERD

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 6:36 AM

This is the first I've heard of the slashdot thing, but I have to put a word in defense for the physics nerds. Sci-Fi/Space movies, w/ the exception of 2001, Apollo 13 (obviously) & few others, all bug me on a subliminal level, in their disregard of gravity & inertia. You flip a switch and everyone sticks to the deck, so strongly that you can accelerate at nine g's -while standing unsupported in the middle of the bridge- and not become a pancake on the aft bulkhead!

Trivia question: who said, "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic?" No seriously, I wish I knew, but it's apropos to what was posted earlier. What it really boils down to in filmed entertainment is budget, and no one wants to do that much wire work. As Joss himself said, "I didn't want to make a floaty movie."

All that said, we accept artificial gravity because that's our cultural fantasy space opera paradigm; it's transparently believable to us because we've been raised with it. If we non-astronauts are watching the novelty of life in zero-g, we're not watching the interaction between characters that makes the whole thing worth watching, and watching, and watching again. Neither Firefly nor Serenity have any need of hard science, particularly if it might detract from the Stories. So like I said, it bugs me on a subliminal level, but it doesn't detract from my love of the 'verse and the people in it.

"Is it bad that what she just said makes perfect sense to me?"

CLJOHNSTON108

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 11:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by aintnoshepherd:
Trivia question: who said, "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic?" No seriously, I wish I knew, but it's apropos to what was posted earlier.

Arthur C. Clarke

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke's_three_laws

ERINBC

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 4:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Entrayl:
Uh, guys, can I just clarify that I was quoteing the guy coz I thought he was a moron for thinking that a movie is retarded just based of its ion clouds?

kthxbye.

Totally agree with you there. How can you enjoy a movie if you're busy picking it apart? Especially for dumb things that have no impact on the plot or character development.

NIKNAK

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:31 PM

There's a reason that Serenity isn't in the space.com top ten list - it wasn't in contention. Voting is done by presenting you with sci-fi movies in random order and asking you to rate them out of 5. I ranked/skipped enough films that I started seeing the same ones again. Serenity wasn't there. They probably created the poll before Serenity was released and didn't know about it.

SIRSQUISHY

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 11:17 PM

Look, this is how i rate a series/movie

1. after each episode, does it keep you comming back for more?

2. Do you feel like you are getting involved in the show?

3. Do the charaters have a good background/are certian aspects explained enough? ( and NO i dont mean the science part )

4. Do you wish there was more to watch?

For the most part, Firefly had all of these, Startrek..only TNG for me, starwars..bleh., Harry potter...yea.

i really dont care what others say, Firefly is going to be on my top 5 list for a good long while, i just hope they produce more to the series, and release more movies. If they did, this epic would be greater then all the startreks and starwars combined together.

thats my 2CP.

PRETTYPRETTY

Wednesday, November 23, 2005 12:04 AM

I couldn't even figure out that that meant retarded.

CLJOHNSTON108

Wednesday, November 23, 2005 1:20 AM

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Originally posted by sirsquishy:
If they did, this epic would be greater then all the startreks and starwars combined together.

Hope that doesn't include Babylon 5!

As genius as Joss is, and however much I love Firefly, I don't think he could've pulled off what JMS did.

RPLACKETT

Wednesday, November 23, 2005 4:24 PM

Ok I agree in part about the annoying nature or physics in most SF (yes i am a physicist, nerd or otherwise), but imo the thing thats REALLY annoying is when they use technobabble as a major plot device. Then i feel thoroughly justified in taking it to bits. Not only did Firefly almost never use ANY technobabble, cos Kaylee translated it all into captainspeak for us, but in most cases the technology and the 'physics' of the situation wasn't actually mentiond at all. It was all about the story. Firefly is probaly the least tech dependent SF out there, so to dismiss Serentiy on the basis of the ion clouds (whihc could have been any sort of cloud or a charged atmosphere or whtever) not being real/believable (like the gravity was!?!?! *smack* hello!!) seems ridiculous to the point of lunacy.

To me Serenity and Firefly are the MOST scientifically believable SF around simply because they don't try and explain everything, its just there and it works, (or not as the case may be) and the characters accept it. It reduces the elements of disbelief to a minimum and means that the writers can write without having a bank of experts to consult about the canonical manner in which tachyon beams should operate ... ffs (although when they do the sequal, if they should happen to need a physicist...)

RASMA

Friday, November 25, 2005 12:56 AM

im glad i never went to slash dot for sugestions on scifi shows firefly is one of my favorites because i find it the most belivable look at the futuer the rich get richer and the poor get poorer also the charicture development is great and the people at slash dot need to get a dictonary sifi=science fiction fiction: A literary work whose content is produced by the imagination and is not necessarily based on fact.

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