Are You for Unification or Independence if You Lived in the FireFly 'Verse?
POSTED BY: RiveR6213
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 3, 2006 05:00
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Liberal Democrat or Neocon whatever, all sides on the same badly tarnished coin. Political parties are part of the facade. Our vote is weak compared to the power we grant by how we spend our money. It's money that maintains the power structure. Money talks. Big money talks loudest. Every dollar you spend on gasoline, every vehicle you buy that runs on gasoline maintains the current corrupt powers-that-be. The real browncoats are the ones that walk, ride a bicycle, or get to where they need to go by any means that do not consume petroleum products. If you don't like the Blue Suns in this world, stop supporting them. They will dry up like Lake Powell in the hot sunshine.
So many worlds. So little time.
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I would have fought for independence. My family has always been independent and fought against oppression, dating all the way back to the Revolutionary War.
I have a real problem w/ an all powerful, centralized government answerable to no one. Call me crazy like that.
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"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."
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Look at this from a contemporary context. I consider myself to be liberal minded and I have a strong independent streak, so I tend to lean toward the Libertarian Party. Before you all go and say that I am wasting my vote, think about this. In the last presidential debate, the candidates for the Libertarian and Green parties were arrested in Cleveland, Ohio for trying to justly enter the debate hall. The debates were held in a public venue, and paid for by taxpayer dollars. Both candidates collectively represent millions of citizens, yet both of these presidential candidates were placed in jail only to be released shortly after the debates ended. Does that sound like a free democratic society to you? I know that neither candidate had a chance to win, but if they were allowed to spread their message they could potentially turn the tide of the election, something NEITHER party wanted. If you think voting for an independent or third party candidate is a waste of a vote, think about how you are really wasting a vote by electing either one of the representives of an entrenched, corrupt party bought and paid for with corporate money. At one point in this nation's history both parties accomplished great things, but they have long since become less concerned with freedom, equality, democracy, and justice; now they are more interested in self-preservation. Sorry for ranting guys, it is that independent streak I mentioned. That said, I would go with the Independents, because I certainly understand Mal's perspective on government: "they will either ignore you, or interfere with you equally."
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Would the 'verse really have been better if the Independents won? We know very little about the Browncoats but what we do know is that the Independent leaders negotiated a surrender with the Alliance for two weeks while Mal and his men lay dying on the battlefield, doesn’t exactly reflect favorably upon them. Were the Independent leaders willing to give up their power after the war? For all we know, if the Independents had won, it would have lead to more wars.
"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam
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Good point. We don't really know a lot about them, but I think that the Independents are just that, independent. Somehow they don't strike me as being the type of government that is heavily into oversight. Whereas the Alliance seems bent on control, I mean unification.
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Quote:Try spouting this liberal crap over on the Real World Events board, pal. You'll have your a** handed to ya!!!
Originally posted by JayTee:
Our country's founders were liberals and rebels and all I hear coming out of the mouths of right wing neocons are lies, lies and more lies. They are so up to their necks in lies the stink rises up all the way to Heaven. BTW, God is a Browncoat!
(BTW, as a liberal Libertarian, I totally agree with you.)
Chrisisall
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As I keep voting NO for joining the EU... I have a feeling I'd be a browncoat :)
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"Joss, if you kill him now I'll stuff a compression coil up your ass sideways!"
~ Kaylee, "Serenity in 2000 words or less"
Kaylee's the perfect woman!
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Originally posted by elggin:
I would have grown up on Shadow as Mal's special lady friend, volunteered for service in the Independent Army and survived Serenity Valley to become a member of the crew (and Mal would have no romantic feelings towards a certain Companion)...
I can dream, can't I?
Does the name "Lieutenant Mary Sue Smith" mean anything to you?
(And if it doesn't, ask an old-time Trekkie about it. But be prepared to listen for a while...)
"They're not laughing at me, they're laughing towards me." -- Homer J. Simpson
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On the main thread subject, let me state that I'm a died in the wool Libertarian, raised with Heinlein Juveniles instead of McGuffy's Primer, cut my eye teeth on Ayn Rand and H. Beam Piper. Browncoat for damned sure.
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Originally posted by misbehaven:
Look at this from a contemporary context. I consider myself to be liberal minded and I have a strong independent streak, so I tend to lean toward the Libertarian Party. Before you all go and say that I am wasting my vote, think about this. In the last presidential debate, the candidates for the Libertarian and Green parties were arrested in Cleveland, Ohio for trying to justly enter the debate hall. The debates were held in a public venue, and paid for by taxpayer dollars. Both candidates collectively represent millions of citizens, yet both of these presidential candidates were placed in jail only to be released shortly after the debates ended. Does that sound like a free democratic society to you?
My personal sore spot is that the "Big Two" get to have their primary elections at public expense. Why should their internal decision of who to nominate come out of my tax bill? Especially as they've rigged things so that a third party has almost no chance of making the minimum signatures to get on the gravy train with them...
Hell, a few years back California had "Open Primaries" -- meaning you could vote for any primary candidate, even if you weren't a member of that party! The law in question was voted in on a public initiative, natch. Just points out how little the American public understands our own political system.
"She's tore up plenty. But she'll fly true." -- Zoë Washburn
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I hear you. The problem is that the system is corrupt, and the only ones with the real power to change it are those who benefit the most from things remaining as they are.
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