Why the silly 'verse change? **Minor SERENITY Spoilers**
POSTED BY: Mycenius
UPDATED: Sunday, November 27, 2005 23:55
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Remember the words of the great Shatner...
"It's just a TV show, Damnit, it's just a TV show..."
or the foundation set up by the Warner brothers and their sister, Dot...
The Please-Please-Please Get a Life Foundation...
Seriously, it's science FICTION. Enjoy the narrative and stop worrying about the minute details. ;)
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Originally posted by Diego:
It's not streamlining that I was concerned about but balance. It's hard to tell where the center of mass on those suckers is, but it looks to me as if the engines are not distributed optimally. I could be wrong though.
They've got artificial gravity. Center of mass doesn't matter.
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can we not forget those ships had civilians on them, and with their size would probably be detectable through the ion-cloud.
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Originally posted by Belacgod:Quote:
They've got artificial gravity. Center of mass doesn't matter.
I suppose that maybe they could compensate and move the center of mass that way, although I remain skeptical. Yeah, their magical artificial galaxy is a nebulous enough concept that you might be able to ignore thrust vectors, but it sounds like a cop-out to me.
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My personal theory is that the Dortmunder type cruiser is a post Unification War developement, and that there are not that many of them. Further, it's purpose is mostly to keep the border worlds in line.
It may of may not be the sort of thing you want fighting off an enemy fleet, but it's just the sort of thing you want to send to do a fly-by of a moon that's feelin' a bit uppity. As the comander of the ship you have options ranging from landing a major assault force to slaging a couple of cities.
-Caius
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Originally posted by ecgordon:
[B}All of those other things might be a remote possibility in 500 years, but very few scientists today think that FTL will ever be possible.
There is however an increasing number who believe it may be possible (at least in theory) using the folding space or worm hole concepts... Whether it ever could because of the energy needed is a different question...
I'm not so naive to think just because lots of Sci-Fi TV shows have it it's gonna happen! All I was saying is Firefly had a lot of things in it that implied FTL travel and don't necessarily make 'as much' sense without it (e.g. Out Of Gas episode has about 6 things/events in it that are questionable IMHO if FTL travel isn't possible).
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...oh, and Artifical Gravity and the ability to terraform the 'gravity' of a planet are far more extreme and 'far-fetched' than FTL drives - in fact to do the former (modify gravity) it's quite likely you would need the same tech that powers the later (FTL Travel) anyway - since they would quite likely be interrelated (energy-gravity relationship)...
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Quote:Please don't talk science, you'll just make Joss cry. ;) While the Serenity RPG is not the show or movie and is therefore not strictly canon, it does provide somewhat pausible explanations for both making it a fairly big gun. If there is truly no FTL tech in the 'verse, one thing from the game can give us a sense of scale; the maximum comm lag from "One side of the 'Verse to the other" is listed as 10 hours (page 105). That gives us a system diameter of 10 light hours or roughly 72 AU. As to why there are so many "stars" in such a small volume, my pet theory is that grav tech is so advanced that the colonists could "stellarform" some gas supergiants a la the monoliths of 2010 to make their satellite systems ripe for terraforming. (Sure it's a half-baked idea, but that's what puts the elastic in the suspenders of disbelief.
Originally posted by Mycenius:
...oh, and Artifical Gravity and the ability to terraform the 'gravity' of a planet are far more extreme and 'far-fetched' than FTL drives - in fact to do the former (modify gravity) it's quite likely you would need the same tech that powers the later (FTL Travel) anyway - since they would quite likely be interrelated (energy-gravity relationship)...
)Dalton "What was that snap I just heard?" Spence
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Originally posted by DaltonSpence:
Please don't talk science, you'll just make Joss cry. ;) While the Serenity RPG is not the show or movie and is therefore not strictly canon, it does provide somewhat pausible explanations...make their satellite systems ripe for terraforming. (Sure it's a half-baked idea, but that's what puts the elastic in the suspenders of disbelief.
Yeah! Don't get me wrong I love the show and the movie - And I can live with exteme concepts as long as they are consistent
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Originally posted by Caius:
My personal theory is that the Dortmunder type cruiser is a post Unification War developement, and that there are not that many of them. Further, it's purpose is mostly to keep the border worlds in line.-Caius
That's pretty much what my feeling on them was— big peacekeeping and patrol platforms rather than line of battle ships. The only part of your argument I'm not sure about is the rarity of the Dortmunders. It is hard to say how common they were. There was a bias towards this cruiser type in the series, but one could come up with a number of alternative explanations.
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