So, who would win in a fight?
POSTED BY: Whisper
UPDATED: Monday, January 23, 2006 04:21
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when I saw the recent show at the Air & Space Museum about the current work done in space, they were all little tiny men (and women)
who lift weightless stuff all day, and are not muscle bound (fitting into tiny places...)
They may be small, but are by no means *weak*... unless they've just come from a long stint off-planet and have suffered severe muscular atrophy.
As for lifting "weightless stuff all day"... well... no. Just because a thing in space doesn't technically have *weight*, that doesn't mean it doesn't have MASS. Something that weighs 1000 pounds on Earth still has 1000 pounds of mass in space. In other words, if you're moving it, you're moving essentially what is 1000 pounds. You gotta get it moving, and then you've got to figure out what to do with the 1000 pounds of inertia you've just put in motion! :)
As for the caveman throwing a spear through the astronaut's space suit (if they're in space): well.... again, I say "no". You're assuming the astronaut's extra-vulnerable in space; wouldn't the caveman already be dead in space, him not having a space suit or knowledge of how one works if he did have it? Put a caveman in a space suit and drop him into a close Earth orbit, and he'd be so busy just freaking out about where he was and what he was trapped in (the suit), that he'd be easy pickings for the astronaut. Just swoop down and kick him into a re-entry trajectory, and it's game over.
Besides, didn't James Tiberius Kirk already have to fight a caveman before? I know he had to fight some sort of dinosaur-man once. Neither had any weapons, but Kirk (of course) won.
I'll put my money on the evolutionary winner. Astronaut takes caveman. Superior intelligence and problem-solving skills trump brute force and animal cunning. It's why we hunt deer, and not vice-versa.
Mike
Grrrrr. Arrrgghh.
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Shoot, forgot one other minor point:
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while cavemen all died before they were 30 so would, by definition, be young and strong....
You'd think, huh? Truth of it is, though, that the caveman was "old" and worn out by age 30 or so. Most of 'em died of simple things like bad teeth, leading to infection, inability to eat or hunt, etc.
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Assuming that it was a fair fight where neither had the upper hand (in limbo, no weapons, not Star Trek 'verse where Kirk never loses to ANYONE, etc.), I think it would be a very even match. Caveman still wins though.
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I think that caveman would win, he has a big club. Besides he used to have to hunt big wild beasties, all spacemen have to hunt are moon rocks.
Or alternatively Jayne would use Vera and create a fusion of caveman and astronaut soup
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I threw this little jewel out at work today. To quote my friend Amber, perky little blonde former cheerleader, "Caveman, because you don't have to be smart to kick someone's ass!"
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Ah, but the astronaut could use guile and subterfuge to his advantage. Heck, if he's got some time to kill, he could just hand the caveman a blanket to keep him warm. The blanket, of course, is full of smallpox. ;)
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I think the caveman would win because the astrounauts would be so surprised that they would stand there in shock but cavemen would get scared and just start killing people cause they are like animals.
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CAVEMEN CAVEMEN CAVEMEN... SPIKE IS NEVER WRONG!!!
besides c'mon astronauts suck! cavemen are pure brawn. I mean it's kinda like Beer Bad, caveman Buffy VS anyone who is not a caveman. Buffy won... of course cave-woman Buffy is also cave-Buffy with superpowers, but the other cave-guys did not do so bad either...also the whole SPIKE IS NEVER WRONG thing just out and out proves my point! Now accept my conclusion or prepare to argue for the next 45 minutes!
It's a real burden being right so often.
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Just a minor clarification:
Cavemen are not stupid. They're uncivilized, true, but not stupid. Stupid cavemen tend to quickly become dead cavemen.
The cavemen are humans, and humans, I have found, are nothing if not adaptable.
Also, as someone commented about the Mal/Operative fight in Serenity, dealing with pain is a factor. Astronauts might be able to do a lot of damage, but cavemen, however small, would likely know how to take a lot of damage.
Also, guys: cavemen = REAVERS!
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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Cavemen are not stupid. They're uncivilized, true, but not stupid. Stupid cavemen tend to quickly become dead cavemen.
Good thing to point out. On the other hand,
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Also, guys: cavemen = REAVERS!
strikes me as entirely inaccurate. Cavemen are normal men (pretty much) with primitive technology, while Reavers are insanely aggressive men who fly spaceships.
But cavemen would win against non-Reaver astronauts. A caveman's daily life is dependent on his ability to defend him and his with minimal technology, and this wariness has been bred into him from childhood. An astronaut, while perhaps a veteran, does not expect daily attacks from wild animals or men outside of actual warfare, and the man of today generally expects weapons to be involved in a serious fight. Also, cavemen are sturdy. Living before the poor nutrition that arose in settled agricultural societies, they are not inferior to astronauts just because they don't get daily vitamin pills.
And anyhow, as someone pointed out, how could Spike be wrong??
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