This is what I asked FOX about Firefly
POSTED BY: Tholo
UPDATED: Friday, November 18, 2005 09:27
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Is there an echo in here?
It's amazing. I've been loud and most vocal among browncoats in the general disgust with FOX about the cancellation of the show. I've tried to articulate my views in a series of snooty and saracastic posts to that effect.
I see all I've been saying being echoed by Tholo, 20thcentfoxhater, etcetera, etcetera. A whole bunch of new names I've never seen post here. Always when they echo my arguments, there is an element of mockery in it. We agree with you, and furthermore we're going to add absurd bits of discrediting crap to your line of reasoning. I keep seeing these newly appeared names floating around some of my facetious posts. They always "agree" right before dropping some absurd logic bomb into the mix.
I think you GUYS (and I use the plural form of that word with contemptible sarcasm) are plants. What better way to undermine sound arguments then to inject a so-called sympathetic voice who agrees with the dissenter while using subtle subterfuge to make those arguments seem silly.
I'm cursed with a photographimagical memory.
Of course, if you continue to bury the forum with a never-ending stream of irrelevant posts (as you do), nobody will follow any particular thread.
Hmm.. [conspiracy theory /on] ...I smell calculation.
XG
I think Haken may need to be called upon to scythe out the weeds. Thin the herd of the repeat posters.
No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.
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Originally posted by Tallgrrl:Quote:
Originally posted by Twodifsoks:
[you aren't asking them anything that they weren't asked back when they initially killed the show.
don't be surprised if they don't answer you.
they've moved on.
"Firefly" is now a DVD set that they are making some coin from to pay for the $12 million pilot that they chose to air LAST.
"misbehave" all you want.
posting to the fox bulletin boards will get ya nowhere. well, it'll get you a rep as being a jerk. but that's about it. ]
THANKS, DEBBIE DOWNER!!
Awww....what did I, like, burst your bubble or something?
Poor thing. I ache for you.
Oh, and, you're welcome.
("Debbie Downer"? What are you...twelve?)
"Take me, sir. Take me hard." -- Zoe
Wow. They could win this war for reasons other than "superior numbers", at this rate--like, for instance, infighting. Whatever may be the productive and counterproductive ways to approach Fox (or not to), sniping at each other is sure to end our stand. Come on, guys! Let's ease up on the name-calling! We all want the same thing, we all have the same feelings, and our different assessments of how to go about it are all differently legitimate. You can find books as far back as Aristole's "On Rhetoric" that try to thrash out the best way to persuade others; it's not like we've invented these approaches, or the dilemmas that gave rise to them. I'm sure Aristotle's ghost is still arguing with Cicero's, and Booker T. Washington's is still arguing with W.E.B. DuBois ("separate but equal", or "all equal together"?).
These eruptions of rudeness and slagging have been getting more frequent lately: it makes me sad, and it makes me scared to use this site, and, more to the point, it makes me lose hope about us pulling together and getting the show back on the air. Those of you who absolutely need to criticize other people's tactics or ideas, can't you do it privately--like, in your shower or something?
Maybe it's time, or past time, that we coordinated another push to Fox, in some guise--perhaps disregarding those among the earlier "Save Firefly" set who perhaps have become defeatist. But so far we haven't done that, so if individuals feel strongly enough to take action as they see fit, why slag them?
Meanwhile, if you want your "misery loves company" hit for the week, go over to the Entertainment Weekly site, and look at the postings up there about Fox cancelling "Arrested Development". Lots of rude ones, lots of polite ones, lots of ones in between, but they are united in their huge disappointment about their show being cancelled.
If Mal didn't leave Jayne behind, surely the name-callers on this site can forgive what they consider to be trespasses or mis-steps by other fans.
Vancouver
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I like your question about The Simpsons, I prefer Futurama
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Grenade Ping Pong is pointless as both players loose, unless the grenade is whacked into the crowd, in which case its a lawsuit
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It's admirable that so many fans would participate in a spamming event that might actually get Fox's attention although I have a suspicion that Fox NEVER listens to the public. Their attitude is that "If I want your opinion I'll give it to you!" and so they just ignore any unsubscribed emails or postings on their message boards. I recently emailed Fox but it was about Bill O'Reilly and his statements on his show that it would be fine if Al-Qaeda attacked San Francisco as long as they left the rest of the U.S.A. alone. O'Reilly's warped opinion is that if San Francisco bans military recruiters from coming into high schools there then they are "un-American" and we should encourage Al-Qaeda to "take them out". While O'Reilly is an ugly old turd he doesn't look at all like Senator Joseph McCarthy but he sure sounds as stupid and fanatical. I'll always love Firefly but my TV will NEVER EVER be set to ANY Fox channel. I intend to boycott FOX until they air two apoligies. One for cancelling Firefly and admitting that their executives that made the decision were morons and have had their employment terminated and the second one for the inexcusable comments Mr "ASSBAG" O'Reilly said about San Francisco and his subsequent termination and cancellation of his worthless show. What amazes me the most is that these people have the chutzpah to call their crap on FoxNews journalism.
Jaytee
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Well said.
Who do you suppose is in there?
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Originally posted by Daelus:
Maybe we should write to SciFi instead, and ask them to pick it up? Can they do that? Or a spin-off or something.. I'm sure they could do something if the money was right.
I like that idea. It would be constructive. Come on Browncoats - rally!
"Gorramit Mal... I've forgotten my line."
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Can SciFi do that? I'm a little befuddled on who has the rights to what here.
I really want to do something about the abomination that is being Fireflyless. I just have no idea anymore who to direct my inquiries to.
I think the biggest problem right now with organizing ourselves into a united front is the basic lack of information.
What's possible? Who do we contact/what can we do to increase the possibilities?
Let's stop the insulting and start the brainstorming. We need to keep our voice united (idealists and pessimists alike).
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Hikari there is no lack of information and no need to form up a front. The front is there by a force (or farce if you please) that will continue to exist no matter what.
This entire thread is full of people with disingenuous interest in anything firefly and serenity related. They say one thing yet mean something completely different. They want to argue the virtues of their politics (as if any of us give a shit).
They are talking about all manner of crap that has nothing to do with bringing back the show. Don't get suckered in (I did and wish I had'nt).
Politico types like these can make (and are makeing) multiple accounts and invent these point-counterpoint debates by assuming both sides of the argument. They can make these fictional voices and pollute the conversation at will. I would wish Haken could code the forums to protect against it but since the release of the film I'd imagine he's incapable of filtering out the dross. Information overload.
Time is on our side. Threads like this will eventually be a bygone memory, and those of us who truly care can refocus on what's really important... bringing back the show.
XG
No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.
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i sent an emial to fox but they didnt respond!!o ya and can sum1 plz give me the email adress 4 fox tv network i sent it to fox movies!lol thnx
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Well I'm not Fox but here goes
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Originally posted by Tholo:
Why cant you guys sell the Firefly rights to Sci-Fi Channel?
A: Joss tried to get Sci-Fi to pick up FF back when it was frist killed and Sci-Fi passed on it.
Thay don't want it.
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Why didn't you give Firefly a fair chance? Such as air it the same time and in order?
A: Thay tought thay knew better then Joss.
Sounds dumb I know but there in charge and "I reckon every man who ever had a statue of himself was some kind of asshole or another."
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Can Sci-fi make a Serenity TV show without Fox's rights?
A: No.. It's in the contract with Universal that thay cannot make a new TV show.
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Why keep the Simpons going for so long, give it a rest? Let Firefly soar and have a chance.
A: DO NOT KNOCK THE SIMPONS
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These are some of the types of questions that fans such as myself are asking on all the message boards?
http://browncoats.serenitymovie.com/serenity/
http://www.fireflyfans.net
Please give us (fans of your cancelled show, that has the best selling DVD) an answer.
Thank You.
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