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New York Magazine article that talks about a new revolution in TV... discusses the posibility of resurrecting Firefly

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UPDATED: Monday, November 21, 2005 20:05
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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 2:10 AM

I love charity work. I do lots of it. Raise real money and everything.

But I want to raise money for a new series. That's my goal. I don't want to confuse the two.

As for Paypal, I'm a huge fan of it for the ease that it creates, but fees on a $40 donation run about $1.46. I'm not sure there's a cheaper, as convenient way to process money, but if there is we should look into it. Ideas?

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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 2:45 AM

I would pay $20, along with 999,999 other Browncoats, to charity to convince Joss that we could get $40 million, and then $40 for the actual 2nd season, if neccesary.

If this works, it will mean a revolution in TV show production, which I'd love to be in on the ground floor of.

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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:26 AM

Man I just got into this show recently with the release of the movie and kick myself for missing it when it first came out and truly LOVE it.
I would GLADLY pay towards new shows for two reasons.
1. This show is a fine example of what decent writting can do for tv, in a time ruled by reality tv and sitcoms appealing only to brain dead folk it was a shinning light in the dark verse that is.
2. Being able to fund a show this way would me little to NO COMMERCIALS. dunno about you guys but I'm sick and tired of watching tv and having sexual stimulants, feminine products, crappy food and drink, come across the screen when all I would like to do is relax and enjoy the show.

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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 4:58 AM

Welcome to the No Ad Zone, friend - "and now a word from our sponsor..."

Naturally, Scifi is of course the best home for Firefly. I know they like to do their shows in Canada. Now that I know they get gov. subsidies, I know why. The ONLY tiny thread of sanity I might stretch over FOX's warped hare-brained rationale is the apparent cost of doing showbiz in L.A. so if simply moving the venue is all it takes to bring back Firefly to Scifi's home in Canada then I'm all for it.

Although Scifi IS the best home for Firefly, we do have another option available to us that I mentioned on another related thread some weeks ago. It carries the fan contribution fund, charities, etc. to the next logical step.

Here is the crux of what I propose:

Joss forms a corporation whose purpose is to buy Firefly’s way back into existence as a series. This corporation like all corporations will have shares so we browncoats can in essence buy ownership and share a stake in Firefly’s success. We can control Firefly's destiny instead of sacrificing massive amounts of money to dimwitted shortsighted suits only interested in cheap profit. We can use this ownership to negotiate with Sci-fi (owned by Universal) and buy a decent timeslot and pick up the series with the same cast, writers, director, etc. under Joss's direction. Then he won't have to continually "sell" his vision to those unsymPathetic fools because we will directly harness Firefly's resurgence. Of course, this requires an investment (note that the purchase of shares will provide dividends) from us in Joss' foundling company sufficient for it to go public. Once public, our options will increase and Joss can guide Firefly’s fate back to the forum it was meant to be in the first place. We can, at Joss' direction, promote the series properly through mass media and in junction with Sci-fi to bring the series back to life. From an investor’s point of view even if the corp. ultimately failed the investor is likely to recover most of his money anyway. This is just one idea, but I haven't heard anyone mention it before so I thought I'd offer it. By relying directly on our own strength and minimizing the powers of those suits that do not care about anything greater than the bottom line TODAY, Firefly might live to fly again in the way it was meant to. (And Universal can keep making movies while we keep Serenity flying on TV).

To paraphrase Wash, ‘Let’s cut out the middleman, and give [the power] directly to the people. The pay’s better and we make sure help gets to where it needs to go’. Any more ideas?

Long Live the Empire!

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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Obiwan:
As for Paypal, I'm a huge fan of it for the ease that it creates, but fees on a $40 donation run about $1.46. I'm not sure there's a cheaper, as convenient way to process money, but if there is we should look into it. Ideas?



I don't think we need to work with a middle man/agency. At this conjucture wouldn't the significant statement simply be to step forward and I say "I would give $X." First off it'd be easier to say I would if you would rather than immediately giving money and when everyone gets the confidence boost that comes with seeing a million other people come forward with pledges then we'll be able to go to Joss like a three year old on father's day morning with a plate full of half cooked eggs and burned bacon and pay him and his team directly.
Right now we need to just get people to say "Sure I would if it'd work" Then we go from there. A low risk first step with a highly probable success rate. Whos with me?
-e

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"We'll pass through it soon enough."

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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:03 AM

Whoops, hit 'post' twice.

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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:55 AM

*Sigh*

Actually suggested this very same strategy about 9 months ago... but got lost in the noise (and the poo poohing)

My Actual suggestion was much the same, Content delivered online but that say for you $100 - $120 Bucks you also got DVD's sent to you etc etc.

But more importantly Folks - This model of Subscription media has actually been in use highly successfully for many years here in OZ. We call it Community Radio!!!! Take a look at 3 RRR or 3PBS (or any other community radio station) Each year there is a subscription drive. Currently we choose to pay around $60 each per year - and ta da - we get free to air FM radio (and online streaming ) thats wonderful. Now that the model has been proven to succeed, albiet in a different format, what do we need? The Radio version works on a pledge basis, which has to be then payed for by a specified date. We could do much the same. Generate a Pledge page, (with perhaps a maximum people are willing to pay for 20 episodes - eg in my case I'd pay $200 for $10 an ep.) And get one person to be the rep to take it to Joss and ME.

Lets fight the fight folks.

Jake in Space

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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:34 PM

My husband has been talking about a tv viewer revolution for years now. I think it's getting closer. *g* Here's another article about the whole concept. This one mentions Farscape specifically, but it works with FF too.


http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/ny-ettel4512235nov14,0,5268273
.column?coll=ny-tv-columnists



I'd pay in a heartbeat.

Chris
imloco2

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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:08 PM

JOSS WHEDON BETTER HAVE READ THIS ARTIClE!!!!!

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Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:32 PM

I knew things were changing IN ABSTRACT, but when I was able to go to the Yahoo site and watch the premier episode of FAT ACTRESS, I knew the floodgates were opening.

I also commented last year to my husband how I though iTunes should also offer videos since they are kicking ass with the audio. Well, then iTunes started offering some for free viewing, but just recently they became available for purchase and download...only $1.99!

This is going to get interesting ;)

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