New York Magazine article that talks about a new revolution in TV... discusses the posibility of resurrecting Firefly
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I'm in for $100. Honestly, it seems unlikely to work, but can't hurt to try! This could at least provide a big ole batch of seed money to get the ball rolling and make the venture less scary to a network like Scifi, even if it doesn't pay for a whole season.
I'm just wondering if we could really get a million people into this. Or even a large fraction of a million. How many people visit this site, really?
Ask Dr. Science ... he knows more than you do.
"I have a Master's degree ... in science!"
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Seems a fair amount come here, maybe not as often as some of us(everytime I open my browser I'm at good ole' fireflyfans.net) but between this site, the official browncoat webpage, the two podcasts, the scifi channel forums, and word of mouth I bet we could muster up a million or so people.
-e
"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."
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So what we could do is have a member poll on this site for people to vote on whether or not they would give, 40, 70, 100, or 500+ dollars to see firefly in the air again, leave the poll up for a month or two and try to get other firefly fansites to plug a link to it, maybe the serenity site, and few movie review zine sites too.
After we have the results from that, if they go far enough, as in aprx.40 mill. We should start an attention getter, maybe a holiday season charity collection on the site w/paypall to try and get some media attention while doing goodworks in the name of firefly. If we can raise a significant amount of cash for that, we can feasibly get the attention of Whedon, networks, or other persons involved in the funding or creative process.
During this time we should all bust our tails trying to figure out clearly and exactly who owns what/who of the firefly/Serenity creative property, and what would need to be done to give whedon complete creative control of our series again.
If we can do this right, I definately see a strong probability of this working out to a pleasing end for all parties involved.
"Burn the movie, boil tv, you can't take my series from me ."
-K
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Sounds like a groundbreaking and good idea to me, if there are enough people to be found to support this.
A similar system worked before twice already for the two most recent albums of the group Marillion, which let their fans preorder their album (for a higher price, but with exclusive bonus material) before it is even written.
When the album is finally released, they sell bring it to the stores also by signing a contract with a label just for that purpose. The creative freedom and the rights for the music all remains completely in their own hands!
I'd say, if there would be a DVD-Set of the according Firefly Season included in the deal, there would be plenty of people who would support this. If there will be enough? Who knows if one doesn't try ;)
The amount to be given by each and every one, would have to be higher then (about 60-80$ maybe?), but when you really get something, like the DVDs, for your money , this idea will surely appeal to more people than when you donate just "for everyone" to get to see it.
I'd certainly be willing to pay 100$ or more for this (including DVDs that is)!
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Not every flan can afford to prop that much cash. I myself am an undergrad student heading towards a medical degree. I am piss poor. all the time, But I would save pennies to get to 40 bucks so I could see firefly again... I don't care about having a DVD sent to me. I can buy that on my own time (like maybe in 3 years...) or have it set on a wish list. Besides, more revenue for the people actually doing the work if we have to go out an buy the DVDs. (that means them being more inclined to make more episodes)
What I am looking for is maybe a website with a membership that gives people a few episodes for the show corresponding to the money they fronted for getting the show on her legs again.
I suppose the DVD thing would inspire a few people to pop money into the system, but how many more would it exclude? People should give what they can for a return for everyone.
Firefly was GOOD tv. It should be made availibile to the masses. There is so much crap with one dimensional characters doing stereotypical things on these days. If we can make shows like firefly who only have a cult following, availible to the types of people with basic cable, we can raise the bar, and make dynamic and original shows talked about, and expected from media giants.
A pay for your own DVD of the series keeps the signal on the downlow, private, and exclusive.
I mean, sure you get your DVDs...but there you are, alone in your living room with your DVDs and 3 other hardcore flans...completely disconnected from a world of people firefly could be inspiring, not interested in the cult of a 90$ box set for an obscure cancelled scifi because they have more pressing needs for their 90$.
I know it's harsh...but I am kinda a socialist like that.
"how is it that we find ourselves in an alliance friendly bar on every unification day?"
-K
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hell....if it gets that far we should just make it free to download from one site, for the general public. And if you really need something else to show for your money, we could set some cash aside for some t-shirt or ask whedon for some christmas cards...He'd do it. The man loves this show as much as we do
-K
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I do have my doubts about this.
Although we Browncoats are a fanatic breed, and Joss also would like to see his universe worked out, we have a huge precedent we have to deal with... it's called Star Trek: Enterprise.
From the start of Enterprise, fans made efforts to keep it on the air. The totals at the end of season 4 went up to over 3 million dollars. But still UPN (the network that was airing the show) kept stiff and said the show was over. Even to the disappointment of the cast and most of the production crew, as the show was finally catching on in its fourth season.
I'm not sure what Fox has to say about the use of the Firefly series (there are a large amount of fan intiatives, although I'm not sure if there's a *serious* fan film project yet like in Trek) and the possibilities to make a fan-based work of the Firefly 'verse are readily available. It would even take less effort than a Trek series (you can build bridges and sets out of ordinary scrap material like they did on the *real* show, unlike Trek where you would build everything from scratch, and I'm not even mentioning costumes) and I'm pretty sure Joss would really endorse such an endeavour! Same goes for Eugene Roddenberry (Gene's son) who is involved in Star Trek: New Voyages.
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I am not so much worried about the networks in that fashion. We don't need them to start a stalled car. We can do that ourselves by pushing and steering, we only need them for the pink slip and upkeep after it gets going again.
If memory and rumor serves me correctly, The new Battle Star Galactica was partially fan funded and heavily internet promoted. The New BSG pilot, was also availible for download and share to people who contributed to it financially. Then, I think.. it gradually got ramped onto networks like Space, and spike. for the general public after the fan base tempature was judged by those networks to be just right.
Set construction may or may not be easier, but that is whedon and his crew's work almost exclusively. It is our job to raise enough holy hell and cash to give them an oppertunity to build those sets and pilot a new season.
Lets see if we, within a month, by the end of christmas can convince a million enough Flans to pop maybe 20 bucks into a paypal charity fund to go to Joss's choice of charity to show him and the networks we are deadpan serious about funding.
If that works well, and we can show that we have the right level of organization or are at least are on the same page, then the next step will be raising money for a season 2 pilot for whedon to pitch.
If we can do that, and buy the hell out of Serenity and Firefly dvds, he may have enough money and ammunition to go straight to Space or spike with a pilot.
If he films in Canada or Australia he will get MAD govt. subsidies. Especially in BC and Ontario from what I know.
Or we could get a cap for a feasible series budget and put a united way thermometer on every firefly fan site and go for broke, hoping we can do it all without a network.
I'm a fan of starting a bit smaller with a charity test run, and then funding the pilot episode and seeing where that goes.
What do you guys think?
"Burn the movie, Boil tv, you can't keep my show from me."
-K
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Bumping this post so it gets looked over some more.. count me in.. I'd pony up at least $100 cashy money...
I think there is some validity to the naysayers BUT, ya know, if we always gave in to the ones who said it cannot be done.. well, we wouldn't be ON this space ship in the first place...
thinking outside the box is part of what made Serenity/Firefly so great.. this just continues that direction..
SO,,, waving my hands around and screaming at the TOP OF MY LUNGS>>> JOSS WHEDON.. CAN YOU HEAR THIS??? TAKE US BACK OUT IN TO THE BLACK!!!!
Chindi at the corner of NO and WHERE looking for the corner of SOME and PLACE!
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"TAKE US BACK OUT IN TO THE BLACK!"
..and tell em we aint coming back!!!!
~~~~~
"Funny and sexy. You have no idea. And you never will."
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