New York Magazine article that talks about a new revolution in TV... discusses the posibility of resurrecting Firefly

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HARTMEISTER

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 6:39 AM

One of your problems is that some people might not want to contribute directly to Equality Now. It probably would be a good thing to have Joss would want to do this partially as a charitable thing that it be designated as a charity of Joss' choosing. That way Joss could make the decision of his own choice. Heck if this a lot of money Joss might want to distribute the money among a series of charities. Of course that might be another way to handle a funding overage. Excessive funds could be sent to "Joss Whedon Foundation" and be counted as a charitable deduction.

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Joss is all about charity, and many of Browncoats have already organized some fundraising for Equality Now, amongst other organizations.

Heck, I think we could organize a multi-purpose fundraiser: pledge money towards funding a new direct-to-download or direct-to-dvd season of Firefly, and have a percentage of that go to certain charities.

That may tickle Joss a bit. Who knows?

All I know is that, the time is right for a revolution to happen. With the dawn of this information age already in full swing, the power can be in the audience's hands. I don't think we can sit idly by like sheep as quality entertainment is thrown out the window by network executives that are out of touch with what the people really want.

You can't stop the signal!

IMPERIALKNIGHT

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:18 AM

We have several options each with risks and benifits attached.

1. Either through the exploitation of a loophole potentially created when he acquired the rights after Firefly's cancellation to "see if the other networks would bite" (they didn't) or adroit negotiation with the FOX Production head of the many headed FOX hydra, Joss wins the rights to bring Firefly back. This step only guarentees that FOX will not interfere in Firefly's resurgence and not the shape or form that resurgence will take.

Naturally, the nature and extent to which Universal now controls the possible fate of a reborn series remains unknown. The only rights and profits I know FOX recieves comes from the DVD's of the ORIGINAL series - and no claim is made to Firefly's future. My premise is based on what Joss said in a old interview took place as he sought to save Firefly from FOX's bungling incompetence by proactively acquiring the rights to it from FOX just after they put Firefly out to pasture and testing the waters with the other networks. It must be noted that Joss attempted this before we compelled FOX to sell the series DVDs, so I have no idea how much Joss yielded back to FOX after the other networks let us down. Obviously it wasn't everything, or else Universal did some negotiations with FOX productions to get the rights to make the movie. Honestly, I believe that FOX's sole remaining claim on Firefly comes from the episodes and extras on that fantastically popular DVD set we all own. EVERYthing else, Universal owns or Joss retains.

Now that Joss holds the right to bring back Firefly, he needs the personnel, funding, and resources required to make it happen.

2. Scifi serves as the vehicle for Firefly's return
Personnel: The orignial cast (ALL of them) + necessary Scifi support staff.
Funding: Universal owns Scifi and we have already proven our tenacity and strength to Universal enough to get the movie, a little pressure from a skilled negotiator should convince Scifi to pick up the tab esp. with the possibility of a one-time nominal show of financial support paid upfront directly into a fund specifically set aside for the sole purpose of fueling Firefly's return at a decent timeslot on Scifi. This fund would serve to show Scifi execs in a VERY direct and tantible way how much the browncoats are willing to see Firefly return. Of course, any negotiation to convince Scifi execs of the power of Firefly's return would have to contain at a minimum the very detailed fruits of the following major points:

1. The strength of DVD sales for a show that lasted only a rather erratically aired 13 episodes through the absolute worst timeslot on primetime TV (Friday evening is intrinsically NOT a good Ratings night for primetime), in the middle of the World Series, out of sequence( airing the pilot after the first episode for a start), and in spite of absolutely the most lackluster and forgettable marketing and advertising campaign in TV show history. Universal already bought this point, but it bears refreshing in their memory to set the stage for what’s to come.

2. Show them the breakdown of how well Serenity with what little it had in the way of advertising (outside of Sci-Fi) and marketing. For a word of mouth or “viral” advertising/marketing campaign (read slothful, lazy, and cheap for Advertising/Marketing execs) and the testimonials of conversion of large numbers of people (very deeply and very quickly with some special focus on those who love this show that were ambivalent toward or hated Sci-fi as a rule before watching Serenity or Firefly). Testimonials about the die-hard dedication of the fans would work nicely here as well as some figures about the exponential growth of the fan base in terms of recent DVD sales on the series in the wake of the movie. Include data on the sales and ranking of Firefly at Amazon.com and elsewhere worldwide sorted by region (Canada, Australia, USA, everywhere); make liberal comparisons between the relative standings of Star Wars III and Lost compared to Firefly as and

ANFA

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 1:08 PM

I would happily pledge my hard earned money to getting more Firefly, and I know at least 8 more people just off the top of my head that would willing do the same.

If this idea flys, you can count on me!

" We're just too pretty for God to let us die."

THEWASHEDONE

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 1:15 PM

The thing is - if it has not been mentioned beforeand i have didn´t notice ;) - that there is a whole lotta Fans all around the globe (and "roughly" over a Million, of that i´m sure *g*).

That means, the number of people willing to pay for some more of our beloved B.D.H. and their shiny spaceship should be recalculated (upwards!!)

With a wider (worldwide) base of fans it would be possible to rise the amount of money Joss gets to go on with Firefly or the 40 bucks could be reduced to maybe 30 (not too optimistic, but a little *g*).

I surely hope this idea will last a while.

Joss has a huge fanbase here in Germany (thanks to that Slayer ;) ) and it´s still one and a half weeks before the film hits cinemas around, but i´m sure it will be a big bang and so will be the german DVD-Box (coming out today! Whooo! )

"Everything looks good from here..."

RESOLUTE

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 2:44 PM

Screw $40. If I knew, or even had an inkling it would bring Firefly back, I'd go as high as $500. What good is a new TV if you don't have new Firefly to watch it on?

SINGLEJACK

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 2:57 PM

I don't as a rule post on most message boards, I registered so that I could post here.
I couldn't afford to go as far as $500 for a season of Firefly.However I would be able to go as high as $60 a season.(gotta eat, you know)

walking and talking, bright and shiny

DERANGEDMILK

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:33 PM

About looks like someone just needs to start taking names and if we start to get a pretty large tally then someone will eventually take notice. Also, I am in complete agreeance with the charity idea, maybe we could calculate in tithe(sp?) if not simply starting a second fund altogether.
-e

"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

DERANGEDMILK

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:37 PM

Thats brings us to $1320 so far on this thread.
-e

"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

DIANASPR

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 4:10 PM

ok so that comes to be about $2.50 per episode that is a bargain, But is every body willing to get back onboard,thats the question, I say to Joss take the money and run with it!!! PLEASE,PlESASE,PRETTY PLEASE give us some more Firefly.

SHIRLOCKC

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 4:29 PM

I've posted on this subject in two similar threads already. I think we can take a running poll on this fansite as an experiment to see how much money we could "raise" with this scheme. It's a matter of # and it's easy to calculate. If 500,000 are willing to fork out $40 (I paid that amount twice over as I bought 2 Firefly DVDs set already) then that's $20 million. If each episode is $2 million that's 20 episodes right there. And we all know that Joss can work within a budget.

Another similar scenario is for Joss and company to incorporate and sell shares in the "new season of Firefly" then anyone who buys a share will also share in the profit. This would then not preclude a big network from buying shares if they so choose.

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