New York Magazine article that talks about a new revolution in TV... discusses the posibility of resurrecting Firefly
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So, set up a webpage saying that a new season is on the way, assuming there are enough people willing to pre-pay $40 for a season on DVD. People can pay online via credit card/ Pay Pal, whatever. What happens if the bottom falls out, and not enough people pledge money to get the thing going? How do you refund everyone’s money?
I would think that the money would have to be put in an account that would not be touched until there are enough funds to start production on the season. Also, I think this would need to be done within a reasonable amount of time too. Holding onto someone's $100 for 5 years while waiting to get to $40 million wouldn't cut it.
I think this idea could work, however, I think it needs to come from Joss/Mutant Enemy. A fan-based fund like this a)doesn't guarantee anything, and b) is less likely to be taken seriously, resulting in less fans actually paying for it.
As far as fans dictating what Joss writes, I think that could be taken care of in a disclaimer before a person pays for the show.
Just a couple thoughts
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I'm in for $100 as soon as this thing starts. And much as I'd like to, I wouldn't make it conditional on getting to see Jayne at least shirtless in every episode.
Seriously, I wonder if this could work? I hardly watch anything on TV any longer--if I like something at all, I either record it or wait for the DVD. And as wonderful as it was to see Serenity on the big screen, I'd be way happy with another set of episodes I could watch over and over until my eyes bleed.
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"TV’s days as a benign dictatorship—a little bread, a lot of circuses—are over, and the revolution is nigh."
VIA LA REVOLUTION!!!
I TOLD you guys that everything was changing and that traditional model wasn't going to work for much longer. I feel so smart now. LOL
I like the idea of RANSOMWARE....it could work for new seasons of Firefly...WE would pay up so fast! JOSS! ARE YOU OUT THERE?!?!?!
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I agree with everyone that this would need to be led from the top, because its dealing with people's money. I wouldn't trust my money with just anybody.
What I think needs to be done is someone needs to start a site(or just a page within this site) taking pledges. Where, like in this thread, we all post how much money we would be willing to give and a running tally could be kept at the bottom of the page. When Joss or the folks at mutant enemy see that we already have $50 million dollars worth of pledges then why would they even hesitate to start the project.
I also totally agree with a disclaimer about fans having zero influence on the story line. I don't care what I or anyone else on this site wants. I care about JOSS' STORY.
So seriously, why wouldn't this work?
-e
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"We'll pass through it soon enough."
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funnily enough, the article indicated above is what I was thinking about a few days ago, it does make sense.
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Originally posted by derangedmilk:
I'll pay 40 bucks in half a second. Shoot, I'll pay a hundred for another set of Firefly DVDs. How many browncoats wouldn't? If this is a sincere possibility then why hasn't Haken started a "pledge" page.
It seems like for this idea to go forward for Firefly, you need someone at the top to grab onto it and run.
Someone would need to get with Mutant Enemy and Joss Whedon and figure out what the deal is with the broadcast rights. Fox still owns the rights to the TV series, but does that apply to this new "Straight to DVD/iTunes" model?
Lets assume Fox's rights to Firefly don't cover this new "Striaght to DVD/iTunes" model.
I agree that this idea sounds very workable. it has been batted around before, in more vague terms . . .
I don't know that we can assume that FOX's rights don't hold true - Firefly would probably still be theirs. Unless they can be persuaded to a) sell rights to make a "new" series, or b)permit a new series as "silent" shareholders of some sort.
Hopefully Joss and FOX can cooperate to the extent that is required for Joss to get the show running again and have creative control.
The model of the subscription-funded show, to me, though, sounds hella-viable. We have the numbers, I have to believe, and many, including me, are willing to pay *more* than $40 for a season. I'd pay $10 for an episode, if that's what it took.
I still a newbie to threads and such. I see the same talks popping up over and over again . . . and a thread dies and then the same discussion starts again two weeks later. It seems a lot of this fragmentation results in our reinventing the same wheel over and over again. But I don't know how to fix it.
Nor do I know what it would take for a "pledge" drive to be begun and administered. I don't think it's something that folks should assume "should" be done by Haken - I dunno, but it seems to me that he must have paid some hefty dues by now, with this megasite he runs . . .
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Originally posted by derangedmilk:
I agree with everyone that this would need to be led from the top, because its dealing with people's money. I wouldn't trust my money with just anybody.
What I think needs to be done is someone needs to start a site(or just a page within this site) taking pledges. Where, like in this thread, we all post how much money we would be willing to give and a running tally could be kept at the bottom of the page. When Joss or the folks at mutant enemy see that we already have $50 million dollars worth of pledges then why would they even hesitate to start the project.
I also totally agree with a disclaimer about fans having zero influence on the story line. I don't care what I or anyone else on this site wants. I care about JOSS' STORY.
So seriously, why wouldn't this work?
-e
"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."
This might work, however, if no money changes hands, then some companies (I'm thinking Fox, etc.) might not take it seriously.
I still hold to the idea that Joss/Mutant Enemy should be the ones to head a project such as this. However, perhaps we could create a site to show Joss how much we'd pledge, just to give him a rough idea (but remember, if no money is actually changing hands, then some of the pledges would/might be bogus).
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Count me in - if it's done right.
Plus there's the added bonus that Joss could actually show the episodes in the order that he intended and there would be no "pre-empting" of episodes!
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What we are talking about here is called an assurance contract. I read about this here:
http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2005/05/assurance
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You can set up a assurance contract here:
http://www.fundable.org/
Of course, before we get started on this we would need Joss to agree. I'm new to this site. Is there a chance of contacting him to get this rolling?
And there are a lot of legal issues as well. Does anyone know if Fox owns sequel rights? Any lawyers here?
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Originally posted by onetransmission:
http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/arts/tv/15038/index.html
Let’s say he found a million Firefly fans online—and, trust me, they’re not hiding—who were willing to pay, say, $39.99 each for a sixteen-episode season of Firefly. . .
Count me in where do I sign up? If this were do-able I'd totally be willing, no strike that, chomping at the bit to pay $40 or more for another season of Firefly.
I really think the problem would come from getting Fox to sell the rights. If they see that many people willing to spend money, they're gonna want a slice.
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