River as a weapon SPOILERS

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FOLLOWMAL

Sunday, November 13, 2005 11:22 PM

Tall brunette. Yep, that's more to my liking...

I think I remember someone telling me that I would just have to see "Dark Angel" it was supposed to be awesome. Didn't get the channel it came on at the time.

Is it out on DVD? I'll have to check it out.

And David B. (?) doesn't do a thing for me, so should I avoid "Angel"?

"Also, I can kill you with my brain." – River

SLOWSMURF

Sunday, November 13, 2005 11:25 PM

I just realized the great similarities with the plot of starcraft...(though in starcraft, they DO encounter numerous aliens at their new solar system, and the reasons for leaving are different)

Ghosts seem almost identical to what River might be intended to be, and they functioned as assassins/infiltrators. Just because there is a central government does not mean there aren't rebellious people that having spys helps against, and they aren't exactly the most friendly set of leaders ever...

CHRISISALL

Monday, November 14, 2005 1:54 PM

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Originally posted by FollowMal:

I think I remember someone telling me that I would just have to see "Dark Angel" it was supposed to be awesome.
Is it out on DVD?
And David B. (?) doesn't do a thing for me, so should I avoid "Angel"?

DA is on dvd, and you can decide about Angel later, you'll see him on Buffy, who knows, he might grow on ya.

Chrisisall, Mal/Maxfan

FOLLOWMAL

Monday, November 14, 2005 2:11 PM

Reruns of Buffy are on in my area ( I live in a really rural place).... get cable, but it seems limited compared to other folks. I'll watch and see what I think of Angel.

I'm going to Joplin... the big town, lol, and I'll see if I can afford the DVD of "Dark Angel", cuz now I'm really interested.

Thanks, Chrisisall...

Very shiny!

Hey, I also wanted to add that I'm going to look for Toxic Avenger 4... and I also read, think it was in the movie magazine, that Nathan did most of his own stunts, in the movie. I read your thread where you were talking about him being clotheslined.... seems I remember my magazine saying he did all those. Hmmm, I'll read that again today and try to post.

"Yeah, but she's our witch, so cut her the hell down!" --Mal

CHRISISALL

Monday, November 14, 2005 2:27 PM

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Originally posted by FollowMal:

I read your thread where you were talking about him being clotheslined.... seems I remember my magazine saying he did all those.

If that's true, my respect for the man has just tripled!!! Even if he landed on a pad, that's still kinda impressive, most folk don't cotton to hittin' the ground while their feet are still in the air- it's somewhat unsettling.

Chrisisall

FOLLOWMAL

Monday, November 14, 2005 2:34 PM

I'll have a chance to peruse that magazine later today, and I'll try to post what it said about that.

I'll let you know.

Well, I'm always impressed with our Captain, but then I'm silly-pated. :)

"Yeah, but she's our witch, so cut her the hell down!" --Mal

SHREW

Monday, November 14, 2005 8:47 PM

River has more talents than fighting. I know I will miss a few but she has shown a high gift of mimcry, pyschic ability, scary intellect, empathy, and highly adaptive range of cognitive abilities.
She has been conditioned with triggers and moral inhibitors.
She is a chameleon. She is not a weapon but a "final solution."
Given her brother's protectiveness of her and her own dislike for violence I doubt she will ever be Mal's weapon. She will be a part of the crew and prolly replace Wash as the pilot. I imagine she will come to the rescue but on the whole she will not be used as a weapon by Mal.

Oh side note... She was not meant to kill the Reavers. Quite frankly (before the movie) it was in the government's best interest to let the Reaver's live. I can think of no better way for the government to hide a planet full of evidence that to make sure no one EVER wanted to go there. The Reaver's filled that role quite nicely.

Shrew

FOLLOWMAL

Monday, November 14, 2005 8:59 PM

You know you are right, Shrew...

I'm not sure I was thinking that thru when I said she'd be Mal's weapon... maybe I meant, it's a good thing she's on Mal's side.

"This movie may be a beautiful butterfly, but I loved that damn caterpillar." Joss Whedon.

FOLLOWMAL

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:02 AM

Ok, Chrisisall, this is from the Official Movie Magazine. I'm gonna type it out, hope it doesn't get too long...

The stunt coordinators for Serenity were Chad Stahelski and Hiro Koda. Stahelski was Keanu Reeve's stunt double for The Matrix. Koda was stunt coordinator for the show "Birds of Prey". They both worked on Van Helsing and Constantine.
Ok, that being said... this is what they said about Nathan Fillion in a section entitled Mal Vs. the Operative

"Nathan went 150 percent out with the whole thing and we got a lot of great stuff with him where we didn't acutally have to bring the double to do anything, because he was doing the stuntwork. Joss had this very cool shot where (the camera) started above the platform while they're fighting, and dropped below it just as Chiwetel throws Nathan down and he lands face-down into camera. Nathan was slamming his face straight down into the Plexiglass. And he rode the wire rig we had and did a little piece up there in the air, hanging - I think it was probably 30, 40 feet up above the ground."

They go on to say re: making Serenity...

"I want to do it again!" Koda declares. " I hated to see it end."

Then Stahelski ......"Serenity was one of the most fun movies I've worked on. It was one of the more energetic casts. Everybody was really into doing it. I mean, the actors never left set. They were always either rehearsing or seeing what everybody else was doing. And the production people were all just about making a good movie and I think it's rare to see producers put that much effort into making it right and at the same time watching the budget, but just really making sure everybody had what they needed. It was a great experience and it was fun to work with Joss. He's a guy who loves his job and it shows."

No wonder we loved it so much... they did. All of them.

This movie magazine is really awesome I recommend everyone get a copy!

Hope I didn't bore you with stuff you already knew.

Stay shiny!

"Bwaa...it's kind of a warrior...strikes fear into the hearts of..." Mal

DIEGO

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:37 AM

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Originally posted by Shrew:
ROh side note... She was not meant to kill the Reavers. Quite frankly (before the movie) it was in the government's best interest to let the Reaver's live. I can think of no better way for the government to hide a planet full of evidence that to make sure no one EVER wanted to go there. The Reaver's filled that role quite nicely.
Shrew

I was thinking pretty much the same thing. I don't know if the Reavers were kept around as guard dogs to keep people from snooping on Miranda or for some other reason. Reavers may be vicious but an organized navy should be able to eradicate them. Then again maybe it was nothing as well-thought out as all that. The Parliament might have feared that acknowledging the existance of Reavers by starting a campaign to destory them would risk bringing out the truth. In that case it could just be typical political inertia, fear, and denial.

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