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Do you think Wal-Mart is evil?

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Sunday, November 27, 2005 20:12
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Saturday, November 12, 2005 1:56 PM

EVIL, EVIL, EVIL!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Can you not see that Wal-Mart will have a sizeable hand in making Earth-that-was? Is convience and relativly low prices worth the destruction of our society, its' families and our planet (you know, in the long run, I mean...)?

Chrisisall, guilty of purchasing the odd dvd there his self



what two Countires "spawned" the Alliance?
The US, & China.
and right now we(America) have a trade Deficit of $18.5 Billion with China ALONE (this is a full third of our entire trade deficit) . meaning, we are importing 18.5 Billion dollars more merchandise from china than we are selling to them. meanwhile we are running up record budget deficits, and borrowing the money from Whom??
CHINA in large part.
nearly EVERYTHING at walmart( save groceries) is made in china ( granted anymore this is not exclusive to them, more by now the industry standard)
so you see, the path we are on now, the birth of the alliance isn't because the 2 major world powers joined up for the hell of it, or following a war, but cuz they ended up owning our country. they simply did a "Hostile takeover" in corporate terms.
privately i've always thought that a company couldn;t get as large as wal-mart, as fast as they have, whithout some "Assistance"

and by assistance, i mean some one sold their soul.
there by making the company EVIL!!!!!

that and i think their security archways are rigged to steal a little of your soul each time you walk through.... ( ok, maybe that last part is a little fanciful and extreme, But Prove me Wrong!)


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Saturday, November 12, 2005 3:26 PM

Since you guys opened the subject, I'll show you the Web art I created about this. I personally don't shop there because they choose to buy almost all their manufactured products from China. I'm not one of those people who think it's got to be American made; just not made in China.

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Saturday, November 12, 2005 3:59 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Chrisisall, guilty of purchasing the odd dvd there his self



You don't by chance reply to spam too do you?

As far as the memo goes my take was along the lines of FLETCH2’s - a well thought out, detailed assessment by a loyal group of employees looking to understand and address the company’s recent economic trends. In other words - these kinds of memos are not the place to look for corporate “love.” They are about the cold mechanics of keeping a business alive and profitable (certainly good for employees). “Reducing” employees to number groups and group trends are the only way for corporations their size to get a grip on how they are doing and how they might do in the future - it’s just not going to very warm and fuzzy. I guess I’m not sure what is expected or what was so vile - how would a corporate memo look that addressed these issues that also expressed employee love?

What stood out to me more was their concern over just how to deal with health care costs and coverage, both for themselves and for their employees. I see people outraged over gasoline prices but I hear almost nothing (ok, a small whimper) when it comes to the amazing rise of health care over the last 3 years. The memo seems pretty frank about their current position and even addresses critics’ statements, “...in other words, our critics are correct in some of their observations. Specifically, our coverage is expensive for low-income families, and Wal-Mart has a significant percentage of Associates and their children on public assistance.”
They go on to list 9 steps to address those problems, most of which address both reducing costs and helping increase employee health (God forbid the day should come when a sick employee helps the bottom line..).

Hmmm.. AJAXMINOAN: How about Mao-Mart, or Great Wall Mart ?

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Saturday, November 12, 2005 4:01 PM

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Originally posted by AjaxMinoan:
I'm not one of those people who think it's got to be American made; just not made in China.


Or at least not made by slaves....

I feel like Ash in Evil Dead II;
"How do ya STOP IT??!!"

I can say 'boycott' Chrisisall

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Saturday, November 12, 2005 4:16 PM

I’m not a big fan of the Wal-Mart. I live on a cliff that over looks a valley that used to be pristine, until they constructed the Wal-Mart. Generally Wal-Mart is over crowded and getting in and out is a huge hassle. There’s only one Wal-Mart among the seemingly thousands that exist within a few miles of my house that I actually like.

As far as the anti-capitalist bent, Wal-Mart is what it is because the costumer base has willingly and happily made it that way. And while I’m not a fan of it, I can see why many people would be, since it provides very reasonably priced goods for people who might not be able to afford to purchase those goods otherwise. Furthermore, Wal-Mart is one of the largest employers of people in the US, and most of Wal-Mart employees are relatively uneducated and unskilled and are offered a much better job opportunity then would otherwise likely be readily available.

So I understand why I don’t like Wal-Mart. I’ve got a high-paying job and the money to shop elsewhere. I don’t understand why the anti-capitalists types don’t like it, unless their “working-class” rhetoric is bullshit, which I imagine it probably is.

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Saturday, November 12, 2005 4:29 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:


I don’t understand why the anti-capitalists types don’t like it, unless their “working-class” rhetoric is bullshit, which I imagine it probably is.


I guess I just feel wrong about shopping at a company that perpetuates the use of slave labour overseas. That would be my main beef with them.

Chrisisall, ex slave owner his self

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Saturday, November 12, 2005 4:30 PM

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Hmmm.. AJAXMINOAN: How about Mao-Mart, or Great Wall Mart ?


He he. I can't believe there was a time when I didn't want to buy Japanese stuff. Now I think they are some of the best trading partners you can have. I worked at a Toyota imports lot, and so much of the car's parts were made in America, or they were assembled here. You learn this from the import stickers on the doors. They make things of good quiality that last, resulting in less garbage. They also brought hybrid cars to the market, and they respect nature.
When you buy something made in China, you may as well throw it right into the garbage.

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Saturday, November 12, 2005 6:09 PM

I believe the most reliable cars are in fact Japanese, and a Korean (I think) is way up there too.

Also those 'incredibly reliable' German cars, Audio and BMW, are mid to bottom on the reliability stakes... you just pay more for your (un)reliability...




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Saturday, November 12, 2005 6:40 PM

There's a movie by Robert Greenwald titled "Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price" that documents the effect that Wal-Mart has on the community. For more info, look here:

http://www.walmartmovie.com

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Saturday, November 12, 2005 6:52 PM

Fletch,

True. But it is open season on Walmart. :)

Citizen, yes it is. I think I explained how. It becomes connecting to govt. and an agent of top down control. The end result is the same: Order

A free market is chaos, with maybe a few artificial constraints to prevent chaos from reverting to order.

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