River Tam Question
POSTED BY: Summerrivers
UPDATED: Saturday, November 12, 2005 17:34
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To Liminalosity:
You say the Internet gave we peoples a "smeary, collaborative connectedness on ideas," ...I'd say you're way off base.
Newp nope quite the opposite. We have people who make a name for themselves stealing other people's ideas (like "scriptwriters", the clever parasites who infest hollywood). Of course, the studios protect themselves by legally not accepting FanFic scripts. Why should they? They can have their "scriptwriters" surf the fanbase forums and the newsgroups for ideas, steal them away from the original thinker who thunk them up (it was publicly posted so nobody can debate that the idea coming from a "scriptwriter" wasn't original ~ it's all perfectly legal).
"scriptwriters" are well paid and also proclaimed heroes. The creativity they stole dies of course (side-effect of the theft). They couldn't think it up on their own but they can profit by what they stole. It's explained away as a fluke of their genius when they can't follow up with more of the same.
It's all out there. Free for the stealing.
Paying royalties to the brain that thought it up will drive up the production budget. We can't have cast and unionized crew living off anything less than a caviar and lobster diet. If we shell out money to the poor bastard we stole the idea from, we may be forced to eat commoner's food.
They are gods who give the mob entertainment, they maintain the peace, and as such, they xserve the best. It's just ximple as that.
To giantevilehead:
You wouldn't be bitter and angry, but I'm bitter and angry for you. They would pwn you.
XG ~ the no-PWNge-zone is in effect
No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.
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Originally posted by Giantevilhead:
People who try to own ideas are hurting the ideas. Ideas, like everything in this world, must change or it will stagnate and die. Ideas are created in thought, they are essence without form, they were born in the mind and they must evolve and grow in the mind. It is much better to have many minds expanding upon an idea than just one mind.
I think trying to keep a deathgrip on a good idea hurts the gripper(s), but not the information. A wonderful idea might sometimes be poorly presented, or altered beyond recognition, abandoned out of boredom with repetition, but I think fine ideas no matter how mistreated will always resurface.
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Ah but it does hurt the idea. The idea could be lost, it may one day be rediscovered but so much time would have been wasted, so much potential unfulfilled.
XEROGRAVITY, where are you getting all those ideas? It's reality isn't it? Leave it to reality to make people feel bitter and angry. Luckily I don't live in reality, I live in a wonderful place of sunshine, lollipops and rainbows, brighter than a lucky penny, and I feel pretty, oh, so pretty, so pretty and witty and bright.
"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam
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Originally posted by XeroGravity:
To Liminalosity:
You say the Internet gave we peoples a "smeary, collaborative connectedness on ideas," ...I'd say you're way off base.
They can have their "scriptwriters" surf the fanbase forums and the newsgroups for ideas, steal them away from the original thinker who thunk them up
"scriptwriters" are well paid and also proclaimed heroes. The creativity they stole dies of course (side-effect of the theft). They couldn't think it up on their own but they can profit by what they stole. It's explained away as a fluke of their genius when they can't follow up with more of the same.
Sorry, I didn't see you there.
Thanks for bring up the 'all your base' thing in a pitched battle, I've been thinking about it quite a lot since.
Do you do? You must something because you're so damn funny, and stuffed to the gills with resources from all over the place that you break apart and put back together in some amazing ways.
The fun for me is in the creating. It has to be there. The money is just a side effect of the must be done. If someone rips me I don't give a sh*t, -unless- they've contracted with me and then rip me. That's a different thing.
You say "The creativity they stole dies of course (side-effect of the theft)."
To which I say punishment enough for ripping a whole idea, with the side effect that the idea is out there. If it's a good and happy little viral idea, it will affect enough people to change the world a little. I'd trade making the world a better place for 15 minutes of fame any old day of the week. If some screenwriter is paddling in his swimming pool while I'm trying to decide on groceries or gas, I'm still a happy camper, and I get the next idea and the next laugh too.
Does this make sense? I'm not trying to get you to -share- this idea, but I would be pleased if you understood it rather than saying you'd be bitter and angry -for- someone who holds it.
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Originally posted by Giantevilhead:
Ah but it does hurt the idea. The idea could be lost, it may one day be rediscovered but so much time would have been wasted, so much potential unfulfilled.
Bwah haa haa! The speed of light (or at least the speed of thought and slow typing) is a factor.
Yeah, butcept I think ideas (like tulips and irises) are not hurt or lost by being buried for a while, even a long while. I don't think the potential of any good idea goes unfulfilled in the long term, and I think time is only wasted in persuit of negative goals (you know, anger, hatred, ya ya all that).
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In response to your question:
"Do you do?"
Yes I do. Or at least I did. What you should really be wondering is what I didn't do, when I did what I was doing. What I didn't do is (or at least wasn't) worthy of talk. It just wasn't do-able when I was expected to do it. Now I'd do it without hesitation... it would be "do" or die. Do you understand?
Do you?
XG
Don't make me do this again.
Doobydooby doo. Doo Doo-B do dooo.
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Have you dusted the poppies on this hill with XTC?
Or is there a trigger in the language of Frank. Cards anyone?
Lemon drop? Show me me what wasn't there...
and someone please change the music before my conditioning kicks in.
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