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Why isn't SCIFI picking up this SHOW!!!

POSTED BY: shoreguy
UPDATED: Thursday, December 1, 2005 08:38
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Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:29 AM

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Originally posted by Hjermsted:
Fox considers Firefly to have been a huge failure. The pilot cost $10 million and the remaining 13 hours were produced, I believe, at $2 to 3 million a piece (please, correct me if I'm wrong). That failure is still logged in their accountant's books in red ink and will not be forgotten by them.

The 'verse does get more valuable to Fox with each new fan but not in the Family Guy (put it back into production) kind of way. From Fox's standpoint selling off Firefly would be a once-in-a-network's-lifetime opportunity to recover cash on a failed show. This happens so rarely they will undoubtedly ask a HUGE sum should someone come a courtin'.

The growing popularity of the franchise actually hurts the chances of the show coming back anywhere but Fox and I believe Joss has stated he will never work with the Fox network again.



Oh, come on, Joss. Don't be sore at Fox just because they maimed your baby...

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* Joss would have to get back in bed with Fox and play in their heavily mined playground.


Well, Inara has shown us that prostitution is nothing to be ashamed of. I fully support him sleeping with the entire Fox network if it gets more Firefly made. I admit, minefields are tricky, but I'm sure a clever man like Joss could find victi- trained professionals to clear a play spot.

Fox gave us DVDs... I have to continue my with my delusional hopes

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:27 PM

I would think FOX would be happy to DUMP a cancelled show but maybe not...cLeRks

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:28 PM

Guy, I'll say this again:

There is a difference between Fox Network, and Fox Productions. Yes, Joss has said he'd never work with Fox Network again. This does not nessassarily mean he wouldn't work with the production arm of the studio.

Fox productions does not need to sell the rights nor does anyone needs to buy them for Firefly to resume on another channel. They just have to reach an agreement on who covers how much of the actual production cost.

When Fox network cancelled the sitcom (I think called...) Married for Life, it was the network that cancelled it. Not the production arm of the company. When the WB then picked up the show, Warner Bros. did not start making the eps themselves. It was still made by Fox. Just like, as I said above, though the Fox network had no interest in airing Buffy, they had no problem producing it for another network to air. It many ways it's better for them, since they don't take on the lion's share of the risk.

Fox, just like any other multi-media conglomerate, is a hydra with many heads. Just because we hate one head (the network), it doesn't mean they're all the enemy.

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:46 PM

Fox isn't going to get anything out of sitting on the rights and not doing anything with it. Nothings going to happen if they damand so stupidly high upfront cost for the rights.

Why the hell don't they license it out on a per season basis? Say 1 mill per season if Scifi want to pick it up. Its better than no money and letting the fan base slowly die over the years.

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:24 PM

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Friday, November 11, 2005 12:40 AM

What is wrong with "Serenity the TV Series"?????

drop the Firefly title

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Friday, November 11, 2005 5:33 AM

I think a title like "Still Flyin'" could work (much symbolism!)

Or permaybehaps:

"Out to the Black"

or

"Big Damn Heroes"

just a few thoughts.

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Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:58 PM

I guess they rather let it die than have it become a SCIFI hit which would make them look bad. Still can't figure how it became a movie and 2yr cancellation...

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Wednesday, November 30, 2005 12:21 AM

Ahh...we are the reason plus an influential Joss stalker on Universal's board of execs noticing the power of our DVD purchasing skills and seeking to capitalize on it a bit. Their marketing of the movie or the series that preceded it amounted to a evil Marketing exec on the thirteenth floor of Universal HQ saying "Hmm, how can I collect a seven figure salary out of sitting on my butt. I got it - let the Fans Eat Cake! *of course!* They can do my job for me and I'll call it "viral" marketing. I'm a GENIUS! That idea alone is worth every bit of the five million I saved when I outsourced my entire department to China...well except the wifey's job to look pretty as Vice-President of Marketing. That's money I can invest in my Swiss bank account along with the rest of my Bush tax breaks! Thank you "Free Trade", Tort Reform, and President Bush for caring so much about the most important person in the world - ME! Illegal immigrantion is Ggggrrrreeaattt! Hey ille, bring me that capacino extra lotte and don't skimp on the fudge chocolete, I'm RICH!!!"

Bring Firefly to Scifi!!!

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Wednesday, November 30, 2005 12:32 AM

Firefly's ratings on Sci-Fi have not been very impressive. Sci-Fi can't afford Firefly even if they wanted the show. Firefly costs more to produce than Sci-Fi's most expensive show Battlestar Galactica, which costs $2 million per episode and Sci-Fi shares the cost of the show with Sky One. Not to mention the fact that the more expensive Sci-Fi shows are filmed in Canada which further reduces costs.

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