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What in the Verse is Happening!?!?!

POSTED BY: fireflyfan278
UPDATED: Saturday, November 12, 2005 16:18
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Wednesday, November 9, 2005 8:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XeroGravity:
Where is my evil emperor cloak? Ahh... there it is...
*puts on cloak*

I aren't capable, and I ain't gonna debate the issue. I wasn't ain't gonna never not repeat this, but you've never not forced my hand)...



Whooooaaaaoo aaao a o a o ooo!!!

But wait! There may be hope!
Besides getting his ass tangled in the cloak of invisibility,

he has created a causality loop of double negatives,

and I believe...

I can slip through...

right...

here

.

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Wednesday, November 9, 2005 3:32 PM

The idea that the same fans are just buying DVD's over and over again is illogical. Like many other fans, I might buy a couple of extra copies and give them to fans if I could afford it, but I can't.

The reality is that for almost every copy sold a new fan has been added to the fold. I'm an avid fan and I keep telling others to watch, but I can't afford to buy them copies.

For a 3 year old cancelled TV series to continue posting the kind of sales that are going on right now is beyond the scope of reason. Someone should pay attention.

I really believe that the DVD sales are going to catch the attention of a lot of people.

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Wednesday, November 9, 2005 3:56 PM

One can only hope. Of course, Fox admitting that they're wrong only happens about once a millenium, and they've already used it on Family Guy.

I give to you the Seeker of Serenity, the Valkyrie Warrior, the Gourmet Cook and the Truth Scoper.

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LFO
Wednesday, November 9, 2005 4:12 PM

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For a 3 year old cancelled TV series to continue posting the kind of sales that are going on right now is beyond the scope of reason. Someone should pay attention.



Given the presence of the film, I have to disagree. But, they are good - they indicate that the franchise does, indeed, have legs.



I'd like to add to my earlier statement - what I think the execs percieve is rabid fans buying immediately. I predict that sales will fall off a bit, as the fanboy effect theory predicts. However, what execs can't really see (unless some of them happen to be browncoats themselves ;) ) is the degree of fandom/attachment/enthusiasm Firefly inspires, and how quickly it does so. The movie caught and converted me completely on its own merits. I had never heard of Firefly before seeing it, and I had never met a browncoat. Whedon's Firefly sells itself. Therefore, I do expect the audience to continue to grow, and that's what will cause the long-term trend of high sales.

I wonder, though, how big the the pool of potential browncoats is - there must come a point at which most people who would love Firefly if they saw it, will have seen it. (Warning: unfounded guessing ahead) I suspect the pool is of the same magnitude as that of Star Trek fans - it looks like the recent Trek films have been grossing 70-90 million, so we've got quite a lot of room to grow :)

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Wednesday, November 9, 2005 4:47 PM

Like other people,I am a new fan.

I came to the show late after watching the BDM.

I have converted my brother and my friend(big Joss fans BTW) and we're going to a convention this Saturday.

Joss changed my life. He gave me a friend I thought I'd never have. I met Michelle at an Amber Benson signing 2 years ago and we are so close.

He has also given me the best damn abroad friends anyone could ever hope to have. And a new way of celebrating my fandoms through art,fiction and posting boards.

Finally he has given me 3 shows,with whom without,I wouldn't be the same person!

I *heart* him

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Wednesday, November 9, 2005 5:30 PM

One of the reasons "Serenity" didn't do well is that it was released in so few theaters. I've been told (third hand or so) that Universal only releases its own productions in its own theaters. Here in Albuquerque there are 3 of their theaters, and 2 of them are notorious for having problems with enough parking. They are also are not handy to bus service, which is not all that great here anyway. Most people would rather wait for the DVD.

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LFO
Wednesday, November 9, 2005 6:08 PM

I don't think number of theatres has much to do with it at all. For example (using boxofficemojo.com numbers), consider Stealth verus Star Wars III. Stealth opened in 3,495 theatres and grossed about $30 mil domestic. Episode 3 opened in 3,661 theatres, and grossed around $850 mil. Stealth was in 95% as many theatres, yet grossed a mere 3.5% as much. Granted, these are extreme cases, but I think they indicate that theatre count isn't a big deal.

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Wednesday, November 9, 2005 10:11 PM

UK box office gross

http://www.empireonline.co.uk/incinemas/ukboxoffice.asp?BODate=09/10/2
005


Good, considering it made more money in the first 3 days than the films underneath it, was shown for only about 1-2 weeks and had a advertisement that was shameful (I counted a total of two adverts where I live, 3 if you count the 6 times I went to the cinema beforehand)

[edit] now that I look at the 3-day gross and the total gross, I would say it was only shown for 3 days

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Wednesday, November 9, 2005 10:22 PM

There's also the matter that Stealth looked like a truly shitty movie...and didn't have Lucas's name on it. Even good movies paled in comparison to E3...which ALMOST lived up to the expectations I had for the news Star Wars movie.

It's at least mildly a good comparison though...

Adam

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Wednesday, November 9, 2005 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by LfO:
I think the execs are thinking "It's those few obsessive fans driving sales up again to try and sway us."



Yeah, silly us, spending money and driving their sales up. Really, would they rather us not drive their sales up?

Bottom line is the bottom line. Who cares where the money comes from so long as the money comes? FOX made (several) mistakes, one of which was cancelling something worth making. I don't know if Universal is up to the calling, but I sure hope they learn from FOX's mistakes and see that something with such a large initial following will only get bigger!

They may not make $200 billion in profits like the gorram oil companies, but they will, when all is said and done, make a profit. I think they'd be crazy to ignore the potential. Sure it is a risk, but how many movies are made that never make a profit? Nothing is certain, but that is what makes the future worth fighting for.

I'd love for Hollywood to swing back to the notion that they can make--movies--better.

It burns me, that everytime I buy a Firefly set, or a CD now (because I buy them for family and friends) that FOX makes money off of something they tried to kill, but going forward, I will be more than happy to support Universal for what has been one of the best movie going experiences I've ever had.

Anyway, just my 2 creds worth!


BWAH!
TCM

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