Why isn't SCIFI picking up this SHOW!!!
POSTED BY: shoreguy
UPDATED: Thursday, December 1, 2005 08:38
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Originally posted by Stylinlp38:
The set is allready built, most the graphics allready made, music allready done, etc etc. hmmm
Unless the set is stored in some huge warehouse somewhere that I'm not aware of, as far as I know, the sets for both the series and the movie are long gone. While we fans often think of sets as being something sacred, to those in the industry they are simply something to shoot on to be discarded as soon as their done. You'd cry if you had seen some of the beautiful sets I've had to tear apart and toss in the dumpster. Sometimes pieces can be saved for other productions but often there are exclusive designer contracts that stipulate that sets or portions cannot be reused.
Sometimes components are stored, bits of the Star Trek sets like corridors for example, but usually not. And the reason is simple. Storage costs. It's more expensive to store a set than to rebuild it. I beleve even the massive street set built in England for Batman Begins was razed though I hope I'm wrong about that.
On a related note, I had often wondered what happened to the full size Millenium Falcon built for Star Wars, thinking that perhaps George had saved it but alas, I recently saw some pictures on the backlot of the England Studios taken years ago with bits of it strewn around.
Cheers.
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GIANTEVILHEAD wrote
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The 10 year thing is not true
Yeah, the whole 10 year thing was made up by no other than Nathon Fillion as a sort of a prank which got out of hand. (Info via Tracy)
Doesn't exactly change anything though does it.
Yep ......................... that went well!
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I'm still a fan of the idea that Universal just gives Joss a much bigger budget for Serenity 2. Joss films the 24 hour movie. Releases the first two hours as Serenity 2 and then they sell the whole thing with 22 episo...umm hours of "cut Scenes". Nope, no TV show here FOX, move along. In that case the production costs per epis....hour of cut scene is reduced due to the bulk of sets being created for the film. Currently there is no Serenity Set, both were completely taken down (and not in storge) after Firefly/Serenity. However, I'm sure there are blueprints for contruction, so rebuilding should be too bad. I'd pay $100 for that "extended version" in a heartbeat.
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Originally posted by Giantevilhead:
The 10 year thing is not true.
Whoopsie!
Sorry 'bout that. "Yeah, grenades cost extra."
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Originally posted by Hjermsted:
Fox considers Firefly to have been a huge failure. The pilot cost $10 million and the remaining 13 hours were produced, I believe, at $2 to 3 million a piece (please, correct me if I'm wrong). That failure is still logged in their accountant's books in red ink and will not be forgotten by them.
Yeah, but FOX's Firefly series DVD set has been a friggin' license to print money. The thing's going for $40 a pop on Amazon.com, and as I type this it's still the number FIVE best-selling DVD of any kind. Right now, today.
How many copies would you say it's sold now? And it's still one of the hottest-selling DVDs in the world.
Then there's the great ratings for the Firefly repeats on the Sci-Fi Channel.
I mean, it's obvious that there's a hunger for this TV series out there (certainly much more so than the lukewarm reception for "Serenity") and that the only reason it failed the first time was because the way it was presented.
Surely some executive somewhere has to look at this whole situation and see that.
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It seems like if SciFi wants to do this show bad enough, they can.
They may have to purchase the rights from Fox, but I can't imainge them not coming to an agreement. Sci Fi is probably the network with the deepest pockets, and the one that could most easily turn a profit off the show. So they are going to be able to offer the most money to Fox for the rights.
But, Fox isn't going to want to wait forever to sell the rights. After all, the popularity of Firefly/Serenity has to be reaching its peak, with the movie release, DVD sales, etc. With the popularity of the franchise at its peak, this would seem to mark the time when Fox could sell the rights for ths most.
They could wait longer, but as the poplarity fades, the amount of money they can charge for the rights would seem to go down also. And, as we all know, the networks are in the business to make money.
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Stargate was boring? I actually was a diehard fan of SG-1. I think it was some of the very best SciFi on television ever (up to a point). It should have been put to rest at the end of the 8th season. But it's popular, so they are torturing the storyline for ratings revenues (and cheesy spinoffs *Cough*SG-Atlantis*Cough*).
I wish those clowns in dreamland would have the common sense to retire a superb show when it reaches it's twilight and the fans still love it. They gracefully did it with Seinfeld and MASH. They wrongly did it with Firefly, Red Dwarf, FarScape, TOS, etc.
Sadly SG won't be given the same royal treatment even though it was the thoroughbred of SciFi chan's stable.
XG
PS ~ If you need convincing, watch the whole series, then watch Teal'C do some urban assbeating of bullies in Season 8, Episode 7 ("Affinity"). 8 years of watching the whole series (even if you hated it) was totally worth it for that one episode. Who's the man? Kung Fu Jaffa Christopher Judge. Coolest friggin fight scene on television EVER!
Plus it finally made Teal'C with a head of hair bearable to watch. Grew accustomed to the shaved melon over 7 years.
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Soooo...out of curiousity, how much do you think it would cost to get the rights out of the hands of Fox?
Any contract loopholes we might uncover along the way?
I only ask, 'cause we've put out a boggle of cash to make Serenity roll and to put the DVDs into the hands of all who we must corrup...er... encourage. Yeah, I meant, encourage.
How big an auction would we have to hold to get the cash to buy those rights, do you think?
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If you haven't read the somewhat humerous tales, not even the BLUEPRINTS of the sets could be found. The actual sets had been destroyed.
The movie crew had to go through watching the DVDs to recreate the sets....
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Just a reminder.. Firefly starts from the beginning on SciFi this Friday.. Set your TIVO's.. cause even though they say they arent looking, we know better.
Another thought.. back in the 80's Firefly would have probably had a three season run with a guest appearance by Mr. T and Dana Plato and would have spawned Firefly the breakfast cereal and Firefly the Animated Series.. Mel Blanc could have voiced Kaylee's wacky battery operated friend... On a completely unrelated topic, I've been drinking beer and I'm tired.
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