Riddle me this: Batman vs. Batman Begins- Which do you like better?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Tuesday, November 8, 2005 17:08
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Batman Begins was very typical of what Hollywood is doing nowadays; big explosions, CGI backdrops and story and character arcs so basic that the whole film was just utterly predictable... I've gotta give props to the guy that played The Scarecrow, he really tried to save the film with his fine acting. But Christian Bale and Katie Holmes were there just acting like they were in a middle school play. I would love to complain about the explosion and action filled finale to the film, but I can't seem to remember what happened. Reminded me of a Jerry Bruckheimer film.
Tim Burton's Batman and Batman Returns are excellenet films with much deeper character development (kudos Sam Hamm and the other guy that wrote those two films) and far more believable action.
If we stop seeing films like Batman Begins and Star Wars epIII... they will stop making them... in theory... hopefully... I think I'll move to England.
PS- you guys keep quoting one of my favorite shows, Greg The Bunny, saying that the CGI buildings look more real than the ones that were actually real. great stuff!
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Batman begins was the best.
*EXTRA*
Billionar Gets Drunk and Burns Mansion Down...
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Batman (1989 bliss)
Tim Burton classic 'Nuff Said'
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Quote:LOL, EXACTLY!!!
Originally posted by JuTin:
I would love to complain about the explosion and action filled finale to the film, but I can't seem to remember what happened. Reminded me of a Jerry Bruckheimer film.
There was a really great film in there, underneath all that excess.
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Please, B, subtle works too...
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I've always had a special love for the '89 Batman.
Until I got the special edition of DVD when I picked up the DVD of Batman Begins.
Batman Begins is damn near perfect for a Batman film. Had they put in Harvey Dent and shifted some of Holmes' parts to him it would have been perfect.
Watching the '89 version again it just feels... cheesy. Jack as the Joker is brilliant and definitely steals the show. The look of the city is very nice, very dark and gothic like it should be.
But overall it doesn't feel like Batman to me anymore, and it feels dated. The costume is bad, it has the obligatory pop song (though the Elfman score is brilliant), they messed up the origin (Putting the Joker as the killer of Bruce's parents is just BAD. Batman's early relationship with Gordan and Dent WRONG).
The '89 version has its good moments. Quite a lot of them. But it ultimately just feels dated and inferior to Batman Begins.
I haven't seen Batman Returns in a LONG time, but don't have fond memories of it. I didn't care that much for Batman Forever and that other one should not even be mentioned.
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Batman Begins by far. Batman may have been good in its time, but it feels dated and corny now. Especially being that the Joker had a bigger part than Batman, even though it was supposed to be a movie about Batman.
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I respectfully submit that the extensive cgi (especially the flying by Batman) looks dated (we've come so far in cgi since that was made) and corny (nothing beats a set, even a small one).
Chrisisall
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Uh, if you're talking about Batman '89, there was no CGI. Though it had techniclly been invented, it was not in frequent use in hollywood. That was all old school miniature and matte painting work.
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