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River - movie look vs. TV look

POSTED BY: Serafimo
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Sunday, November 6, 2005 3:23 AM

river was a cute girl in the series but gosh darn in the movie she grew up and has such defined cheekbones she looks like a real beauty someone Yeats would fall for

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Sunday, November 6, 2005 4:08 AM

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Originally posted by N0Skillz:
well, the way i saw it. she was a lil not crazy that day. and was going out, so someone (prolly simon) gave it to her for her to wear.

Then the movie never really slow'd down to were anyone would change (and i don't think they did now that i think of it)

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Plus, remember, Serenity represents the final episode of Season Two, the way Joss wrote it (i.e., writing an entire season's worth of script for the movie, and then having to whittle it down to just a two-hour segment with a major climax at the end), so who knows where they've been and how she's developed. Simon has presumably "destripped" her amygdala, as implausible as that seems neurologically, and the Lethal Weapon part of her Academy/dance training (plie, chop; jete, chop; arabesque, chop...) has clearly continued to come to the fore since her little shut-eye shooting stunt in Season One, and those sorts of things can affect a girl's fashion sense. I thought she looked close to the same, if a tad more glamorous--in a way that could only be expected two or three years in to Summer Glau's ballerina-to-actress transformation.

Vancouver

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Sunday, November 6, 2005 6:37 AM

It's pretty obvious that Simon didn't "destrip" River's amygdala, which isn't really possible, since she still didn't have the ability to suppress emotions.

"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam

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Sunday, November 6, 2005 1:03 PM

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Originally posted by Giantevilhead:
It's pretty obvious that Simon didn't "destrip" River's amygdala...since she still didn't have the ability to suppress emotions.

Agreed. The clinching evidence is her cry during the battle scene: "I can't shut them up, they're all made up of rage..."

Which makes the subsequent events even more wonderful. "My turn!" -- the key moment in the movie (for me) -- meant that she'd found the key to shutting them out, and it was (wait for it!) love.

The battle was won at that instant; the subsequent fighting was just a coda. It was a mighty achievement for poor, broken little River.

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Sunday, November 6, 2005 6:29 PM

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Originally posted by DonCoat:
"My turn!" -- the key moment in the movie (for me) -- meant that she'd found the key to shutting them out, and it was (wait for it!) love.



Hey Don!
love, huh? Hee hee, I might tend to agree with that...what a surprise!
Playing the vid for everyone (IMO) released the information so it wasn't her lonely secret anymore, the nightmare popped out of her head like toast out of a toaster (and she barfed, symbolically)...which gave her the clarity to make the decision for self-sacrifice, the ultimate offering. Mmmm, yes, beautifully wrought.

I also agree with Embers that (after arriving naked) she started out wearing castoffs. The crazy quilt outfit of sweater, floaty double layer skirt and clunky boots that she wore in Safe was my favorite.
The Visual Companion is a treasure trove of fabulosity, every child should have one of their very own.

...and I agree with one of Unvisited Intentions that her gear is always "artfully not quite right". I think that's what the costumers were going for with every one of her outfits in both show and movie: River herself is artful, but unbalanced.

Vancouver: Plie, chop; jete, chop.......lol, re-read; lol...



Thanks to viral marketing...SERENITY: reopening soon in a theater near you.
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Sunday, November 6, 2005 6:41 PM

(GILES)
And since the picture you've just painted means I shall never eat toast of any kind ever again. . .
(/GILES)

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Sunday, November 6, 2005 6:47 PM

I think River's a sexy,zesty lil' number, no matter what she's wearin'.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Sunday, November 6, 2005 7:51 PM

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Originally posted by Giantevilhead:
It's pretty obvious that Simon didn't "destrip" River's amygdala, which isn't really possible, since she still didn't have the ability to suppress emotions.

"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam



Agreed that she's still pretty buggy, for the rest of Firefly and for Serenity, but Simon seems to think some kind of "destripping" is possible, or how do you explain his "treatment" of her after Ariel? He tells Mal, in so many words, that now that he knows what's wrong with her, he can help her. And he IS a surgeon, so presumably he would know. It's true that he doesn't seem to get the dose right (or whatever he's doing with those subsequent injections), but certainly at the end of Ariel he speaks confidently about his ability to reverse the damage. I personally would have thought, once stripped, always stripped, but...decided to assume that neurology is more advanced in the future.

Vancouver

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Sunday, November 6, 2005 8:10 PM

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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
(GILES) toast (/GILES)



But Giles will still have all those lovely cups of tea and memories of near misses,,,and wheatabix...dipped in blood...Ooops....and the candy bar from near the end of season 7 that he stuffed into his mouth whole.


I love the heaviness of River's boots contrasted with the grounded yet fairy-light feel of her carefully placed bare feet.

Thanks to viral marketing...SERENITY: reopening soon in a theater near you.
Shiny Trees! Yavanna made Shiny Trees!

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Sunday, November 6, 2005 8:11 PM

"Once stripped, always stripped" would make a good title for a porn vid, though...

Since I'm not at all sure what "stripped" means when it comes to neurobiology, I'd say it's safe to say that it could be undone. Or at least, it's hard to argue that it absolutely couldn't be, in the fyooture.

I've been trying to remember whether there's any sartorial transtion for River in the comics. She didn't have a very big role there. Should I go look?

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