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So What's next? Has anybody heard from Joss?

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Sunday, November 6, 2005 2:43 AM

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Originally posted by BlueSunCorporategoon:
you know,i have wondered recently,is this is OUR Serenity Valley? are we holding the valley for two solid weeks after receiving orders to lay down arms?..i've been a Browncoat from the beginning...from the moment Mal booted Crow into the recently fired-up engine of Serenity.



There's lessons to be learned, I suggest, from the most obvious precedent in this area. I'm talking about Star Trek.

Wait, wait, don't leave. Yeah, I know there's a lot of Browncoats don't think highly of Trek; but I'm not asking you to admire it artistically (although I do), just to learn from it.

I consider it my good fortune to have been both a first generation Browncoat and an original Trekkie. Yeah, I said "Trekkie", with an Aye-Eee.
I was one before the word was coined, and long before some early spasm of PC groupthink came up with the illusion that "Trekker" sounded more dignified.

Folks, Trek fans survived for ten years on hope and fanzines before they got their movie. And it wasn't any big hit at first, either, nor a critical favorite. But the fan base was strong and loyal, and that impressed the studio enough to make them risk another shot.

Thing is, Trek wasn't always the tired juggernaut it has recently devolved into; once it was the fresh young underdog, just like another show I know. And if Firefly could jump to the big screen in a quarter of the time, with less than a quarter of the episodes, then maybe this slight recent downturn in fortune is nothing more than a marathon runner pausing to catch breath.

And at least we didn't have to suffer through Firefly: The Animated Series just to hold the fort...

"Never give up, never surrender!" -- Captain Peter Quincy Taggart

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Sunday, November 6, 2005 4:49 AM

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Originally posted by BlueSunCorporategoon:
you know,i have wondered recently,is this is OUR Serenity Valley? are we holding the valley for two solid weeks after receiving orders to lay down arms?
i've been pondering this and i've realized something...i've been a Browncoat from the beginning...from the moment Mal booted Crow into the recently fired-up engine of Serenity. as the loyal Browncoat,i've converted many,and seen the movie multiple times. the first poster was right,this limbo is hell,but i've learned great patience as a Browncoat,and thru that i've realized that if this is indeed our Serenity Valley,i'll be a GORRAM corpse before i give up my ground,Joss will lead us,to victory or whatever may come.Just gotta wait for our 'Angels'.

I'll be in my bunk.-Jayne


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Sunday, November 6, 2005 4:49 AM

I understand what you mean I mean cmon I grew up with stories about how my dad waited for ten years playing the star trek rpg waiting for a sign from Mr. Roddenberry. I am willing to wait ten years for the next season of firefly. Im sure all of yall are willing to wait if need be. the show was short-lived. No one wanted it to, but I believed FOX screwed it up. Like I said,I will wait if need be. All we need is a little hope.

My sisters a ship. We had a complicated childhood.
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Sunday, November 6, 2005 1:03 PM

It's important to note that Universal won't ever come out and say "We're never doing another one." They'll say "No plans at this time" in perpetuity until they decide to do another one. Sometimes this can be a huge period of time (think The Last Picture Show, Beyond Sunrise, Blues Brothers 2000 or even The Santa Clause 2 and Bad Boys 2). Even if the comment from Universal in 2010 is "No plans at this time", that still doesn't mean it's over.

Plus of course, there's always the other media forms to keep us going; comic books, novels, maybe audio dramas. What's clear is that, as far as Joss is concerned, this is something he is never going to close the door on. And that's really what I'm concerned about.

And if you ever feel that this is it, we've had our shots and blown it, well, I happen to be a fan of another TV show that was cancelled. A few years later it returned with a hugely expensive TVM. It flopped and the show disappeared again for another 9 years. Finally it came back once more this Easter and became the highest rated drama on TV and a phenomenon again. Never say die because you never know when the general public are going to come to their senses.

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Sunday, November 6, 2005 3:07 PM

I hate Wonder Woman. How any Superhero could maintain a secret identity with a funk band following her around all the time is beyond me.

Firefly will not die here.


Who do you suppose is in there?

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Sunday, November 6, 2005 3:27 PM

that was just the message i wanted to hear from joss. hes recognised basically everything that we are feeling right now and hes said that hes in the same kind of limbo as us. i think i needed that kind of reassurance (although nothing says reassurance like 'yeh of course therell be another big damned movie here,watch me sign it in blood' but thats not a realsitic expectation.)

im gonna enjoy my firefly dvds, pre-order serenity, continue trying to convert people and be optimistic about the future. and i'll probably spend a lot of that limbo on here swapping quotes and validating my fandom.
thanks joss, i feel a wee bit better now :)


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Sunday, November 6, 2005 6:36 PM

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Originally posted by RocketJock:
Yeah, I said "Trekkie", with an Aye-Eee.

"Aye-Eee Captain?"

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And at least we didn't have to suffer through Firefly: The Animated Series just to hold the fort...
Am I the only one who thinks a Firefly animated series would be all manner of shiny?

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Sunday, November 6, 2005 7:05 PM

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And at least we didn't have to suffer through Firefly: The Animated Series just to hold the fort...



Heeeyyyy! Now wait just a minute there! The scripts and stories were pretty darn good from what I recall. Granted, the animation sucked, but hey, (remember, it was the 70's and animation studio's had neither the money nor time enough for quality, except maybe Disney. Digital Computer Animation didn't exist then - it was still a hand-drawn cellular drudgery thing...) many of those scripts were lightyears ahead of the ST movies, that's for sure!

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Sunday, November 6, 2005 7:58 PM

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Originally posted by traken:
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Originally posted by Cub:

What that tells me is that people like Firefly (and the TV format of the series) a heck of a lot more than they liked Serenity.



Actually, based on the trend, the tv audience and movie audience is shrinking, and in general is dropping in avg IQ*. Reality shows and tv shows/movies with no depth are the norm and I think this will continue because reality shows are easy and super cheap to make, meaning big $$$$ for network execs to get fat christmas bonuses. Another factor is that home theater systems these days are sufficient to keep people home, since there are no noisy kids or cellphone talkers, etc. The only thing helping is DVR's (TIVO), but then the networks lose advert revenue.
Anyways, just throwing out some of what I know, and some of my opinion.


* I said avg IQ, meaning not all tv viewers complete numbskulls. Please do not take offense. I watch tv, at least the little i can tolerate.



Actually, I heard that reality TV is on its way out.

Seems the public has reached a saturation point with "reality" and needs some good old fashioned fantasy again.

May I suggest a good show?

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Monday, November 7, 2005 6:48 AM

Well, I called up Joss the other day, and here's what he said:

"How the hell did you get this number? Who the hell are you? No, damnit, I will not send you a free copy of Serenity!"

Well, at least i tried. :)

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