The empire is going down on Bush:
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UPDATED: Friday, November 4, 2005 22:08
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Way to imply the Clinton administration had people murdered.
Um. But they did. Vince Foster? Ring a bell? My brother is an ardent supporter of democrats, he voted for Clinton twice. But he's also a lawyer. He has told me in no uncertain terms that he's absolutely certain the Hillary had Vince Foster killed to keep herself out of prison with whitewater. So I gotta say they did it at least once, there may have been more.
Sorry DT, not this time. Here's a quickie link just because it's easy to look up from the comp I'm on, read it for yourself.
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/clinton.htm
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White House deputy counsel Vince Foster committed suicide on the night of 20 July 1993 by shooting himself once in the head, a day after he contacted his doctor about his depression. A note in the form of a draft resignation letter was found in the bottom of his briefcase a week after his death. (Note that this letter was not, as is often claimed, a "suicide note." It was Foster's outline for a letter of resignation.) Foster cited negative Wall Street Journal editorials about him. He was also upset about the much-criticized role of the counsel's office in the controversial firing of seven White House travel office workers.
On 10 October 1997, special prosecutor Kenneth Starr released his report on the investigation into Foster's death, the third such investigation (after ones conducted by the coroner and Starr's predecessor, Robert B. Fiske) of the matter. The 114-page summary of a three-year investigation concluded that Foster shot himself with the pistol discovered in his right hand. There was no sign of a struggle, nor any evidence he'd been drugged or intoxicated or that his body had been moved.
If Foster had been murdered or if unanswered questions about his death remained, Starr would have been the last person to want to conclude the investigation prematurely. Or are we to believe Starr is part of the cover up, too?
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Originally posted by SevenPercent:
And here's the winner for ignorant ad hominem today. Last time I checked, the state senator I voted for was African-American. I thought Bush getting rid of Powell was the absolute dumbest thing he had done, up to that point. I even like Condi. So that's at least one liberal that calls bullshit on your rant. Show me where any single respected liberal bashed a conservative black candidate because of race.
I was about to 'have at you' but then I parsed your statement. You've got me. I can't show you a single "respected liberal". All I've got are DNC Chairman Howard Dean, Montgomery County Executive Douglas M. Duncan and Baltimore Mayor Martin O'Malley, both white Democrats and running for governor of Maryland, Maryland Democratic Party Chairman Terry Lierman, Sen. Lisa A. Gladden, a black Baltimore Democrat, Maryland State Sen. Verna Jones, Baltimore Democrat and vice chairman of the General Assembly's black caucus, Kweisi Mfume's (who is running for senator) spokesman Joseph R. Trippi (to be fair Mfume himself condemned the attacks), News Blog -- a liberal Web log run by black New Yorker Steve Gilliard, US Senator Robert Byrd (D, WVa, former KKK Wizard and recent user of the "N" word), and on and on, and so on and so forth...and don't forget the NAACP's crack for votes program here in Ohio in 2004.
But no. Not a respected liberal to be found, but thats another story.
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Originally posted by Hero:
I was about to 'have at you' but then I parsed your statement. You've got me. I can't show you a single "respected liberal". All I've got are DNC Chairman Howard Dean, Montgomery County Executive Douglas M. Duncan and Baltimore Mayor Martin O'Malley, both white Democrats and running for governor of Maryland, Maryland Democratic Party Chairman Terry Lierman, Sen. Lisa A. Gladden, a black Baltimore Democrat, Maryland State Sen. Verna Jones, Baltimore Democrat and vice chairman of the General Assembly's black caucus, Kweisi Mfume's (who is running for senator) spokesman Joseph R. Trippi (to be fair Mfume himself condemned the attacks), News Blog -- a liberal Web log run by black New Yorker Steve Gilliard, US Senator Robert Byrd (D, WVa, former KKK Wizard and recent user of the "N" word), and on and on, and so on and so forth...and don't forget the NAACP's crack for votes program here in Ohio in 2004.
But no. Not a respected liberal to be found, but thats another story.
Just naming names isn't gonna cut it. Why don't you show me some quotes and some links? And not links to Newsmax, either. Show me one statement from Dean, with an actual attributed quote, where he condemns someone based on their race.
And, if you can (which I doubt), I'll post a quote to a conservative who said something similar or worse (all I have to do is type 'katrina stupid quotes' on google, and I bet I find 50). So have at me; it'll be amusing to watch your argument collapse. You're stretching 'respected' already by naming people like 'Montgomery County Exec..' Who the hell is that, other than a political nobody I'm sure Hannity got a good soundbite off of?
Your precious neocons are just as bad as any liberals; saying 'all liberals are racist' makes you look juvenile.
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Which you did when you said this:
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I suggest you switch to making racist statements against conservative black candidates and leaders...thats something all you liberals can get behind
Just in case you forgot.
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Okay, I'm going to intervene here. Can we not degenerate into partisan bickering?
If we did that, they'd have to elect us to congress, and I really don't want to waste the time :)
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I would have to conclude that Kenneth Starr works for Clinton, but then I always thought he did. Just because urban legends wants to be partisan isn't going to make Clinton, who was not shy of killing a million or so others, not a murderer.
I will forward the piece to my brother, since it was his story of Vince Foster, but it's very hard to credit. The girls really had nothing on Clinton.
For Bush, Abu Ghraib was the fake torture story to cover the real one.
Remember Bush's marijuana tapes exposed? That was leaked by Bush. It was negative scandal as positive spin.
Clinton's extramarital affairs were the same thing. Here was a man who was imbezzling money, committing genocide, and helping to wreck the environment for profit. A real focus on a real scandal would have been fatal for him. That's what Vince Foster was. Of course Foster would leave his job, but he was also prepared to testify.
I'd make the same accusations of Bush. I can think of a couple off hand John Bolton probably did away with. Oh wait, those were 'suicides' also. I love the idea that people in govt. are always committing suicide like they were drug addicted teens.
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