$2.00 fee could have saved Firefly?
POSTED BY: Haken
UPDATED: Friday, November 11, 2005 17:48
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Good points.
I agree, reluctantly, that some doors have been shut with the movie; the show will never be the same. As good as, I hope. Better? Possibly – although I find it hard to imagine. But never again the same. And I suspect that some of Whedon’s willingness to play hardball with his characters’ lives and his storylines is the result of his feeling that Serenity might well be the whole shootin’ match.
I am still very excited about this prospect, though. Are you sure we can’t pay enough to bring this back with the fan base we have? I’d buy an entire season for $2 an episode in a heartbeat; hell, for $5 an episode, times an optimistic 24 episodes – the best $120 I spend that year.
How many of us are there? Not counting multiple viewings of the film, and/or tickets bought for strangers? A nice, solid, conservative number . . . Seems even with the repeat DVD and movie purchases of the diehard Browncoats, we must still have a lot of fans.
Two earlier General Discussion threads where fan investment was discussed:
Lets take it into our own hands - 42 -
10.23.2005 04:51
Hi Firefly. Hello pain. - 40 - 10.21.2005 20:26
It sounds like the business model and the technology are both there.
I wonder if FOX could be convinced to keep a chunk of the gross. (Net would be better, but folks in Hollywood are – justifiably – suspicious of the net; percentages of net profits are often never seen after the accountants work their magic.) Would Whedon accept the inevitability of FOX making money off their original (ill-handled) investment – assuming, that is, that he had full creative control, and FOX was just a shareholder?
As we move slowly from “I smell a lot of ‘if’ coming off of this plan” to “Coulda, woulda, shoulda.”
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Would Whedon accept the inevitability of FOX making money off their original (ill-handled) investment – assuming, that is, that he had full creative control, and FOX was just a shareholder?
I think he'd be ok with under those circumstances...He kept Fran Kuzui's name on Buffy for the whole run of the show as Executive Producer (I think that was the title) even though she had nothing to do with the show and he hated what was done with the movie. It was part of the contract which had to be fulfilled to allow the show to move forward and he's practical, among his many other talents. So he accepted that and went on to create the Buffy he envisioned. I would think if he truly wanted to continue this and Fox offered that sort of deal...he would seriously consider it.
One other comment...I've seen a lot made of Wash's death across this board and while I cried and was in shock too - I had learned somewhere that it had been planned for all along in the series, either season 2 or 3 and that Alan Tudyk actually suggested it Joss as away to develop Zoe's storyline and character. Since Joss was trying to do the entire season 2 in the movie and wrap up some storylines...I don't think he just did it for shock value. It was a planned event that he wanted to be sure to capture in case he never gets to contiue the story. Very sad...true, but Joss had always had a way of bringing in great new characters when old ones couldn't continue. Anyone remember when Doyle was killed on Angel...who thought Wesley would have ended up being such a great character? I don't always agree with Joss's decision, however it is his story he's telling and that we all love. What's the old phrase...we don't always get what we want...but Joss usually gives us what we need and I think that's gorram shiny!
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Hey! Somebody please put a SPOILER label on this thread for the poor saps at the edge of the 'Verse who haven't seen the BDM yet!!!!! Geez louise, have some consideration for our fellow browncoats across the ponds!
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Sure, many of us would be willing to spring a little for FF...now. If you had never heard of the show and all you had to go on were the crummy TV teasers, would you willing then? When I saw the teasers on Fox, I thought, "that looks really stupid (please forgive me)." It just doesn't seem to be an efficient way to generate a large economically stable fan base.
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Originally posted by Tomanta:
... Selling out first printings almost immediately isn't the mark of a successful comic book?
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"Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."
Well hell, color me completely wrong. I was under the impression that it did just okay, like the movie. Not sure where I heard that, butI was totally wrong and perfectly happy to be.
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I really don't think pay-per-view is the way to go. What if the show starts out okay, Joss writes up a whole story arc that takes place over, let's say, 15 episodes and then interest drops half-way through making it impossible to fund the rest of the episodes. Essentially, the show would be killed pretty abruptly and the story arc wouldn't come to a close. That wouldn't be good for anybody.
What I think would work is a straight-to-DVD release. Film all 15 episodes of the story arc and release it on DVD as a box set for $40 (basically, $2.66 per episode). Even it doesn't sell well enough to warrant another "season", we'd still get a story arc that wraps up and doesn't just leave us hanging.
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What is wrong with "hanging"? Sometimes the "what if"s are as much fun to explore as it is to know the answer.
I think the movie answered not only River's story, but Book's too, however, it never clearly tells Book's story, leaving much to interpret!
I love a good debate, and without all the facts, you can argue for and against a great many things, and then sit back and laugh about the possibility you're all wrong! That is what is nice about hanging. And it always leaves you wanting more, and as long as we want more, there is a chance there will be more.
Bring closure to all 9 characters, and well, then what?
Let the story live on in the minds and hearts of fans. When Joss is ready and the time is right, he'll give us more...and if he can't or won't? SO what? He's given us so much. So much thought-provoking entertainment I could go on for years speculating the "what if"s.
Hanging is not such a bad place to be. Things happen when you live on the edge. Not an ideal place, but certainly interesting. And me, I've never been one to move away from the edge... 
BWAH!
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Straight to DVD! I've been saying this for three years. I'll pay it. A lot of people would pay for it, even if they never heard of the show or the movie, if it were reasonably priced. Lots of people will buy cheap movies just because the blurb grabs them or they like the pretty person on the cover. Why wouldn't the same folk buy a series? Word of mouth would carry such a DVD pretty far, because a DVD series would have time to build up an audience - it's not going to be out fo theaters in a few weeks, it's not in danger of being cancelled. That's exactly why so many shows find an audience on DVD long after they're done on tv.
I have disposable income and I want more Firefly/Serenity. If they film it, I will pay.
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If you film it we will pay.
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Exactly, you guys need to watch Arrested Development tonight at 8 on FOX... before FOX cancels another great TV show...
PS- Why is "Stacked" back? By far the worst show I've seen since "Living With Larry" starring Bronson Pinchot, Courtney Cox and Sally Field.
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