Are the Browncoats to blame for Serenity's lack of success?

POSTED BY: telewill
UPDATED: Friday, November 4, 2005 07:33
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Yeah and Boromir's death at the end of the Fellowship of the Ring was pointless and ruined the book, the Terminator's death at the end of T2 was pointless and ruined the movie, Tom Hank's death at the end of Saving Private Ryan was pointless and totally ruined the movie, blah blah blah blahdy blah blah.

"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam

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I think we've pretty much covered that this thread contains spoilers, but I'm putting up a notice anyway.

I don't live in a country where Serenity has premiered. I couldn't afford going to the con and get the pre-screening in the UK, cause I had booked for another convention. Fortuntly luck smiled at me, when my town, Bergen that arranges Bergen International Film Festival every year got permission to pre-screen the movie last week I was really calling myself the happiest fan.

In my eyes there's no failure in this movie. And it really bugs me that no matter the results at the screenings in my home country, it won't even show up on radar. Those three screenings, which was all we got was PACKED, people were pilgrimming to see it. Seriously. I was a volunteer at the festival and volunteers always gets free access to all movies, but this one just couldn't allow it, too many people wanted to see it. Despite not having much money when they aired it, I bought tickets to all 3 screenings, I *had* to. For a long time I've called Lord of the Rings my favourite movie, but now I have to reconcider my answer.

We had major applause, first after Joss' message, then after the movie. People loved it, they rambled on about it long after they were out of the cinema. Yes we mourned for Wash, but to say that his death didn't have a purpose is just silly.

Yes it was to give us a scare. Joss knows where to get to us, he takes out the heart of the group. Like when Xander got his eye poked out, then he KILLED Fred slowly and painfully. If he hadn't killed Wash the following sequences wouldn't be the same, I'm not saying they would be bad, but we wouldn't sit stunned in fear, waiting for what's next. It was a message to us that nobody's safe. And for a long while he even makes us believe that he might possibly kill off every single character. Joss got us in the palm of his hand. That's one good reason for why offing Wash, the second, which I think is even more importantly is the final sceene of the movie, with River flying Serenity. Wash's death served the purpose of giving River a real place on the ship.

Now what I want to see happenings:

#1. To see certain people STOP complaining. Seriously if you think about it, this movie should never have been happening. I mean it's spawned from a TV show that despite being straight up AMAZING was cancelled after merely 14 episodes! Yet we GOT our movie and if people can just stop spreading those negative vibes and wait to see happening with the DVD sales, they will SKYROCKET, Universal will get their money's worth and hopefully greenlight the two other movies that the cast has signed up for.

#2. To see the sequel being greenlighted. I seriously want to see Jewel's wish for Kaylee happening :P

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"Joss, if you kill him now I'll stuff a compression coil up your ass sideways!"
~ Kaylee, "Serenity in 2000 words or less"

Kaylee's the perfect woman!

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Hey I just joined found this site looking for Firefly Theme, well i liked Wash but he died for a greater purpose. Zoe became Miss Devil Incarnated because she was fuming over Washes death, so she needed revenge ect. I liked the film it tied everything up explaining about how the reavers came ect

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Oh my god, I hate you. Would you please use a spoiler warning next time. You have ruined it for me...

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Sorry did not know how, i'll keep that in mind for next time.

Also why are you going here their spoilers everywhere in this topic its about the end of Serenity

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
After the shock of Wash's death, and later, after Zoe went down, and Simon got shot and Kaylee got poison-darted, I was sure that this was it! They were all gonna die!

But River saved the day, and the show ended well. it wasnt a masterpiece of a show, but it was a good show.

It did leave open possibilities for River's position aboard the ship; she seemed not to be crazy anymore, and I think she could serve to be the ships pilot. A pyschic pilot is the best pilot if you ask me.

Also, it does leave an opening for two more new crew people that just might fit right on in there with our Serenity crew; thats a good thought.

If they won't make us a new movie, or give us another, new tv series, then I will settle for a whole bunch of novels.

Star trek has about a billion novels written for their universe by a whole bunch of talented writers, so does Star Wars, so why not Firefly?

I did some searching and so far the only books I found for firefly was Serenity the movie novel....whats up with that???? FF's been out since 2002 and no ones written any novels??????
Some fans you are.



You all better be glad I'm really not River

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Heya riv...once again with the good information
im of the same view on the novels idea, even though i would prefer a straight up series (not a movie). i think if the seres had continued that noone would've died...which..even though seeming good, is slightly worn, i mean its abit of a cliche and when you think about it, on a ship that dabbles in crime and has an overly developed sense of morality theres gonna be alot of deaths, you cant believe these people dont die EVER, even though its what we've come to expect of todays TV. i think the movie opened up a new kinda story, one where characters die as unpredictably as they would in a real (or equivalent) life situation, it makes it seem darker, and the show has always had very big reminders that the verse is a big dark place (objects in space screams of this) i think this served to show that when the going got tough- situational sarcasm and tight pants wouldn't always cut it.

but i honestly think that joss kinda thought the movie would totally bomb (which it hasn't) and that he might as well end with a big evil (spoiler)

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spike through the chest

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(spoiler end)ending just to give some level of closure to the loving fans...and himself.

I still believe that firefly hasn't ended, i think it will live on...it might take time and effort, mainly from us, but itll be right as rain and shiny as the back side of a an alliance cruiser soon enuff...and us the long suffering fanbase will live in a happy world of drooling over the psychic dancer and debating over the sexuality of the tight ass doctor

aren't i just an upbeat bunny

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Originally posted by Serenity5:
Sorry did not know how, i'll keep that in mind for next time.

Also why are you going here their spoilers everywhere in this topic its about the end of Serenity

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Sorry about that, I didn't mean you, I meant the thread starter. He did not warn me about spoilers in the topic or his message and I started reading and on the second or third sentence he hit me with the biggest possible spoilers imaginable.

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Posted by EMPTY

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I still believe that firefly hasn't ended, i think it will live on...it might take time and effort, mainly from us, but itll be right as rain and shiny as the back side of a an alliance cruiser soon enuff...and us the long suffering fanbase will live in a happy world of drooling over the psychic dancer and debating over the sexuality of the tight ass doctor

aren't i just an upbeat bunny
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Yes you are the upbeat bunny, and I thank you for it!!!!

I really hope the big boys at FOX or Universal eventually come to realize that Firefly is good business, and just suck it up and gives us what we want, and what we want is another series, and if we can't have that, another movie, and if we can't have that, then the writers have to step up to the plate, and start pumping out novels.

I swear, since 2002 there should have been at least 15 novels out; what happened people? Were you original Browncoats so bummed out about the cancellation of Firefly, that you all made like Miranda and just laid down and never got up?

Another thing. Why is there no Soundtrack for Firefly's theme song in the soundtrack section at any of the music stores I go to, or how about when I do a search on itunes, how come I can't find any music for Firefly or Serenity to download? This is a problem.

In the 60s, the original Star trek pumped out 55 episodes and then gets cancelled. The fans freaked, and within 2 years there were a billion Star trek books on the shelves at book stores, a zillion reruns of ST was on the boob-tube, plus ST toys were on the shelves at stores, plus a billion idiots running around wearing Star trek uniforms, and this nonsense went on until 1979 when they finally brought out Star Trek the Motion picture, which was not very good, but the fans ate it up anyway.

I guess my point to this mini-rant is, what did those crazed Star Trek fans do that we are not doing?????

I'm actually sorry now that I boycotted television in 2001 and didnt bother to turn it on until 2005, because if I had been there, in the beginning to watch Firefly, and then have it cancelled all of a sudden, I would have declared the mother of all holy wars against fox; I would have been the ultimate Browncoat, and Fox would have put FF back on just to shut me up.

Anyway, sorry for the rant....I just got mad all of a sudden.

I'm going to bed, this is all so depressing.




River steps away from the table...

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