Jayne & Kaylee?

POSTED BY: SergeantX
UPDATED: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 14:47
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SERGEANTX

Sunday, June 8, 2003 8:23 PM

I haven't kept up with the romance threads cause, well, its not exactly something I can relate to...

but I'm wondering if there's been much discussion about Jaynes secret crush on Kaylee. It seems pretty obvious to me. I suppose we should be somewhat careful with spoilers here, but on more than one occasion in the series, I've caught that twinkle in his eye when looking in her direcion... and his obvious concern for her after she was shot in the pilot. Just wondering where it might all go. Is the Simon/Kaylee thing a bit of early misdirection?
SergeantX

"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith

KAYTHRYN

Sunday, June 8, 2003 10:30 PM

Damn you (in a nice way) Sergeant!

It's Simon and Kaylee! Kaylee and Simon!

Jayne’s concern for Kaylee, in the Pilot, when she got shot was cute, I loved that we got to see that caring side of him-- BUT he also looks on with concern and all that good stuff when Zoë got shot, and when that mudder on Canton got shot and died. Granted, he didn't seem to care much when Book got shot, but, he's not shacking up with Kaylee!

Simon and Kaylee! Kaylee and Simon!

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It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Aristotle

LUPA

Sunday, June 8, 2003 10:42 PM

Jayne obviously cares for Kaylee, but in more of a little sister way. If anything, Jayne cares about Kaylee too much to sleep with her. All the sexual relationships we've seen Jayne have so far have been with whores or groupies. Just a spot of fun with no nasty emotional strings attached. Besides, Simon + Kaylee 4ever!

"I don't get it. Is it Avant Garde?" Principal Snyder, BTVS

GINOBIFFARONI

Sunday, June 8, 2003 11:36 PM

I have noticed at least one fanfic author has written about a Jayne / Kaylee relationship.

I wonder if Josh will introduce that later in the show as a story conflict. In the message script in appears Simon and Kaylee go a little erratic.

TALONPEST

Sunday, June 8, 2003 11:38 PM

Nah, not seeing it. Joss Wheadon shows have had a history of letting us know when people like someone in a much more overt way than "a twinkle in his eye."

Besides, Jayne is too brutish to want anything more than sex, which he gets from whores (one of the best lines from "Our Mrs. Reynolds" was when Simon was explaining the goodnight kiss that Saffron used on Mal, and Jayne says, "That's why I never kiss'em on the mouth").

Also, having Jayne try to have a relationship would ruin his whole character- him bending over backwards to please a woman would wreck the whole comedy of his being totally clueless about how they think, even more so than most of us. (See "Shindig" when Mal says something insensitive to Kaylee, and Kaylee and Zoe walk off in a huff, Jayne asks "Is she mad or sumthin'?")

CHRISTHECYNIC

Monday, June 9, 2003 12:28 AM

Jayne seems to care far more about his family (The Message) then he does about the girls he has sex with. I think that his obvious affection for Kaylee shows that he’s not after her. He doesn't seem to show any emotional connection with sex, so it seems like how he shows affection to Kaylee puts her much closer to sister than lover.

I would like to see Jayne in a romantic relationship, there would be a lot we could learn from the character in that situation. For example how he would balance his tough guy look, and personality with love.

SERENITYVALLEY

Monday, June 9, 2003 12:56 AM

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Nah, not seeing it. Joss Whedon shows have had a history of letting us know when people like someone in a much more overt way than "a twinkle in his eye."

True. Very true, BUT! Do you recall that James Marsters made Spike have sort of an attraction to Buffy on screen ever since the first episode he was in. He didn't tell Joss either. He just kept on playing on that and strangely enough, they DID end up together. Just a thought.
But yes, Kaylee and Simon! Did they ever even get back together after Simon was all rude in Jaynetown (I believe it was)? It doesn't seem they'd gotten as close as they had been, but they'll probably end up together.

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?" -Wash
"I told him to sit down," -Simon

KAYTHRYN

Monday, June 9, 2003 1:17 AM

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But yes, Kaylee and Simon! Did they ever even get back together after Simon was all rude in Jaynetown (I believe it was)? It doesn't seem they'd gotten as close as they had been, but they'll probably end up together.

In OiS Simon is sitting on the couch and Kaylee is next to him with her legs over his and they are laughing and talking about funny stories where Simon was naked and drunk. I think they were pretty close.

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It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Aristotle

SUCCATASH

Monday, June 9, 2003 1:18 AM

Interesting idea. I think if Jayne made a move on Kaylee, Mal would kick his ass, and Book would be right behind him. Kaylee would DEFINITELY have to make the first offical move.

TALONPEST

Monday, June 9, 2003 3:14 AM

SV- not having read any interviews with James Marsters about that particular nuance of his performance, but I can't imagine that he ever intended for Spike and Buffy to be together from the first time Spike appeared. I think it's far more likely that he did that as a (very effective) way of making Spike seem more dangerous and crazy. Adding eroticism to any conflict makes it that much more interesting.

But yeah, I got the impression that Kaylee forgave Simon by the end of "Safe," because the whole point of that last dinner scene seemed to be to let him pull the chair out for her, have her hesitate, then smile and sit. And then there was very little about them for the next few episodes, which was good, because I didn't watch the show to see a soap opera. But as Kaythryne said, in the beginning of "Objects in Space" they were extremely friendly.

As for Jayne making a move on Kaylee, I agree that Mal wouldn't stand for it, since he has said time and time again that he doesn't trust Jayne, for obvious reasons. Simon would like it even less. But I think the harshest reactions would come from Zoe and Inara, who deffinately treat Kaylee like a little sister, and they both know what Jayne is capable of even if Kaylee doesn't. Oh, and can you imagine Kaylee's reaction if she found out Jayne tried to sell out Simon and River?

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